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01-02-05, 05:02 PM | #81 | |
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Whoa! Did I say I thought Koresh was cool? Even scumbags deserve their day in court. Listen, albed, because your reply to me was nothing more than an out and attack on me personally, I promise to ignore you in the future. Belle |
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With all our taxpayer money at their disposal, what can't our government do? And get away with. I mean, who are they accountable to anyway. You, me ? |
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01-02-05, 07:09 PM | #84 | |
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Just click on the little ipm's avatar and select the option, put on ignore. You will be asked if you really want to put the imp on the ignore list...Do not waver, be strong |
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01-02-05, 09:07 PM | #86 | |
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01-02-05, 09:18 PM | #87 |
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Yeesh Belle, you're lucky. It took me like a whole week or so to realize he was a bitter burnt out wannabe closeminded dumpstermouthed harebrained conclusion jumping crybaby pointlessly venting his gooey black spleen like some pestilent fungus on anyone who says hello.
He's given you a gift. Cherish it. You known how I am, I'll hammer 'em if I'm in a generous mood. The sad thing is that any good political forum could really use a good 'radical conservative,' sort of as ballast, and some part of him must imagine that's his function, but he just comes off like Topio Gigio on crack. I'm pretty sure he can't help it. I know I should take Ms. Silver's excellent advice like a good monkey, and it might sound ironic, but I already do ignore him in my own way. I imagine that he sounds like Herve Villachez on helium usually. |
01-02-05, 10:29 PM | #88 | |
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Now I remember why I can't forget you guys & why I keep coming back to this board Best laugh I've had all day! Well, I could try and be the resident radical conservative, but it wouldn't come across as sincere, coz I'm too much of a softy . I really don't understand how anyone can be totally conservative or totally liberal, much less radical on either end of the pendulum. Albed is a good example of how NOT to be, that's for sure . Belle |
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01-02-05, 10:41 PM | #89 | |
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Albed, my actions at this board might affect you, but believe me, that's where it ends. Get a grip, go out & look at the blue sky above, smell the roses, etc., life is not so bleak. The darkness you see is the darkness of your own soul. Learn to forgive yourself & love yourself.......then maybe one day you can actually learn to love others. Good luck. Belle |
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01-02-05, 11:08 PM | #91 | |
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02-02-05, 02:14 AM | #92 | |
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02-02-05, 08:17 AM | #93 |
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I don't think it's as much a liberal/conservative thing in this particular thread as it is people who can understand and reason vs people who adopt a view and cling to it in spite of information and logic to the contrary.
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Uhm, actually schmooky, I don't see it as a "most liberals" thing, or even a "my viewpoint is the only one that counts" thing, that when you start spouting shit like:
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I can only speculate the way in which he would "change democracy" but the implication is that someone would decide who is intelligent, honest and "mentally healthy" enough to participate--and I can't but assume in his vision it would be someone like him who would decide. Who gets excluded and where does this process of preferential selection stop--when all the power is in the hands of people who think like albed? For instance he's already made it clear that gay people shouldn't have the right to marry, but why stop there? Let's make them sew little pink triangles to their clothing and deny them a vote too. Or maybe we should administer IQ tests to determine who gets to vote. (Though it remains to be seen if more liberals or conservatives would lose their rights in that scenario.) Change democracy? Maybe we should let the Iraqis know that while we're busy bringing freedom, liberty and democracy to the whole world, we're also going to change democracy, train it to ignore certain ideas and to exclude certain people. Of course in my opinion this is exactly the feeling that all the hype about TERRORISM is designed to engender, and these are exactly the kind of warning signs to be vigilant against: when individuals and their rights are no longer as important as the condition of the state. The oldest trick in the political book is that a frightened population is a pliant, easily controlled population, a population ready to sacrifice anything to feel more secure, including their rights. Of course as we can see in albed, other people's rights are usually the first to go. I think one of the primary differences between "liberals and conservatives" in our current climate is that liberals tenaciously believe that equal rights are not dispensable and may even see that work is still needed to establish that equality, while albed's true colors here show that three million votes is not enough insurance against his fears to keep his party in power, and what better way to increase that power than by simply denying the right of participation to the opposition. If we don't recognize that as a fascist trend then obviously history has taught us nothing. |
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I'm already too tired of your bullshit Ramona to bother arguing when you can't tell the truth to make your case. Anyone can scan this thread to find the other lies I've pointed out. It gets old and anyone who constantly does it isn't worth debating. |
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Oops. I apologize for my mistake there. I admit I had you confused with span. What a stretch that is, huh.
So maybe you do support gay marriage. Maybe you're gay. I can assure you it wouldn't be possible for me to care any less, but feel free to make a case about how pro-gay you are if you'd like. I hardly think the point of my post hinged on that argument, but it's certainly convenient for you to act like it did. Quote:
Perhaps you don't mean to exclude anyone, perhaps you mean that democracy will have to change to protect itself from all the ignorant, uncritical little moronic parrots. What form will that take? Will Belle still be allowed to express her opinions? ...Will she still be able to procreate? ...Will we have to send her to a special school? Maybe by "democracy is going to have to change" you mean that it will ultimately just deteriorate because ignorant liars and crazy people (like Belle and I) are allowed to participate in it. If this is the case I guess democracy itself must just be a big misconception to begin with. Most importantly, what is it ultimately going to have to change into? This is a great opportunity for you to prove to us all how well you can reason as well as dazzle us with your understanding about what form this eminent revolution will take. |
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Who mentioned an "eminent revolution". You're still trying to put words in my mouth.
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Lol. I mention intelligent, honest, and mentally healthy people favorably and you start thinking anti-gay, like gays are dumb, crooked and crazy. Who's anti-gay here? |
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02-02-05, 09:18 PM | #99 | |
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Well, I'm probably not exactly middle of the road . I'm very passionately against abortion, but also passionately against the death penalty. I don't think we have the right to take another's life. I believe laws should be set in place to save the beach mouse, not because I care about the mouse, but because I care about the beach . Mostly I think people should mind their own business, and not be so concerned with what others might be doing. I've lived long enough to know I don't know everything there is to know. So I am openminded to other viewpoints. I've learned there is a lot of gray, and not much black and white. I strongly believe in protecting those who cannot protect themselves---the young, the old, the disabled(also animals). Belle |
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Boy those liberals sure can spin, can't they? They'll just twist and distort anything. I sure do feel for you poor conservative fellas, gotta be hell to be so right all the time and yet not be able to figure out why people just don't trust you. And then bad people like Belle come along causing all this misery and convincing Timothy McVeigh to start his murder plans, and hell Belle, I didn't even know you knew Timothy McVeigh. Quote:
Democracy: 1 a : government by the people; especially : rule of the majority 1 b : a government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held free elections 2 : a political unit that has a democratic government Change: 1 a : to make different in some particular 1 b : to make radically different 2 a : to replace with another 2 b : to make a shift from one to another Revolution: 2 b : a fundamental change in political organization; especially : the overthrow or renunciation of one government or ruler and the substitution of another by the governed 2 c : activity or movement designed to effect fundamental changes in the socioeconomic situation 2 d : a fundamental change in the way of thinking about or visualizing something : a change of paradigm |
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