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You guys are forgetting the reason we're at war...
"More Muslims have died at the hands of killers than—I say more Muslims—a lot of Muslims have died—I don't know the exact count—at Istanbul. Look at these different places around the world where there's been tremendous death and destruction because killers kill." -- President George W Bush Washington, D.C., Jan. 29, 2004
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Because killers kill Ain't it obvious Doesn't know the exact count Shameful Just wondering on this one...It's becoming more and more a common knowledge that Bush doesn't want to stop the war on terrorisim. So much money went into the war effort to "liberate" Afghanistan and Iraq that it makes me wonder how long Bush will be able to keep those millions rolling in into the war? What will be the impact on the american people when the country is almost flat broke because of so much money spent on the war? Does anyone care to venture a guess on what will be the outcome if Bush is allowed to keep spending money on his father personnal war? Don't know if this happened in the states during ww2 but over here, the canadian gouvernment spent so much money on it that it was the population who suffered (and yes, Hitler needed to be stopped). The only way to cope with the small amount of money left for the population was to ration the food supply so that everyone could get to eat, well, atleast eat a little. That's how it was in Montreal. For what it's worth, The war should be stopped before the money runs out. What good is a war on terrorisim when in the end, more american will have died then on 09/11? For state security? |
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The above quote was taken as a 'Bushism' so I wouldn't read too much into it.
You mention money (and, ergo, the economy). Over the past few weeks, I've read, seen and heard conflicting reports on the state of the US economy. Seems like on the one hand, the claim is that things are peachy and on the up... on the other hand, there's a big prediction of doom and gloom. I can accept that this is part-and-parcel of predicting the economy - conflicting reports are natural, but there are also a number of reports suggesting something more deeply disturbing. I read recently that at it's current levels, (assuming service on debt goes up a mere Ľ of 1 percent per year), by the year 2011, 100% of the revenue the Government receives will go straight to the holders of US debt instruments. In other words, debt repayment will exceed revenue. I can accept that this is a shitty source, but I'd like to know people's opinions on it - realistic or rubbish?
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If this war doesn't stop soon, the shit will hit the fan and Bush and his friends will have gathered enough money to surf though, at the expense of the american people Being Canadian, this scenario scares me a lot. Not that I don't trust my american neighbour, I just don't trust their president. If Bush goes on invading other country because, either they shelter terrorist or give money to terrorist organisation, then, himself, becomes another internationnal terrorist, in the eyes of others. One cannot comdemn a whole country and invade it because of a few "bad apples" Right now, we can see that in Iraq and Pakistan, a civil war is brewing, the sunite muslim are waging terrorist attacks against the Chiite muslim. I wonder what the us gov will do when all hell breaks loose between those 2 religious groups? Armed peace is not a solution, never was. |
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BAGHDAD, Iraq — Shiite (search) clerics joined Sunni (search) preachers in a march of thousands of mostly black-clad men Wednesday, trying to keep sectarian passions in check after a horrific attack on Shiite pilgrims that raised fears of civil war. In an attempt to play down sectarian divisions, Shiite Muslim clerics and Sunni preachers led thousands in a march from a Shiite suburb in eastern Baghdad to the Kazimiya district where the bombings in the capital took place. "We and our Sunni countrymen are, have been and always will be, brothers," said Shiite preacher Amer al-Hussein, a senior aide to firebrand cleric Muqtada al-Sadr, an outspoken opponent of the U.S.-led occupation. Members of the U.S.-appointed Iraqi Governing Council also stressed the need for unity between Shiites and Sunnis. "It was a crime directed not only against Shiites, or Islam, but against humanity," said Ibrahim al-Jaafari, a prominent Shiite council member. "Anyone who kills a Sunni is against the spirit of Shiism. And anyone who kills a Shiite is against the spirit of Sunnism," he said. Governing Council members also sought to discourage speculation that the attacks would trigger a wave of reprisal killings that would spiral toward civil war. "We are nowhere near civil war," said Mouwafak al-Rubaie, a Shiite member. "It will never happen in this country." |
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terror : n. (a) extreme fear. (b) things which causes fear. (c) naughty/uncontrollable person. terrorisim : n. policy of using violence in a political cause. terrorist : adj. & n. (person) who practice terrorisim. terrorize : to frighten (someone) very much, extremely frightened. Hitler was not a terrorist, he was a monster bent on the conquest of the world and imposing his own values to the conquerred countries. Napoleon was a poor sap Saddam, from his people point of view, he was also a monster... But to my knowledge, the only thing he did to the US was to steal their oil, then the poor rich ppl of koweit cried for help against this thief like the poor rich vietnamese ppl cried for help when those big bad communist tried to impose their regime. Hell, if they were able to kick the french colonist out of vietnam, what made the the american gov think that they could do any better? Span, how would you describe your actual gouvernment? Right-wing or extreme right-wing? In Bush case, he is the all time internationnal terrorist. He keeps frightening his own country on terrorist attacks, keeps frightening other countries that if we are not for the US gov, we are against it, thus for the terrorists, keeps using violence in a political cause (try and find me a peaceful invasion) and he want's to impose on other countries and his own his own personnal religious beliefs. He no better than Bin ladden imo. Bush right now is spending all the money on a war that actually targets only a few individuals and that is wrong. How can one's government justify this much money for so few individuals... beside, if bin ladden does get captured, another will take it's place. War on terrorisim, defined by Bush's government, will go on forever because they will always be ppl that are totally against americans values & idealogies(what ever they are)? Is another dark ages era dawn coming in? If this war keeps going on, the US will prolly run out of money before it runs out of oil |
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three fifths of Al-Queda's leadership is dead or has electrodes hooked to their scrotum in an undisclosed location, i'd hardly call that "going nowhere". Quote:
he was an enabler, people like Bin Laden saw that people like Saddam could thumb their nose with impunity at the world with no reprecussions, that only served to embolden terrorists, plus there's also the matter of his Suicide Bomber Life Insurance paid to families of jihadists that killed jewish civilians in Israel (a US ally in case you didn't know) which could be considered terrorism. Quote:
what do you mean "actual government"? that includes alot of people and i call it a representative democracy. Quote:
what? cite examples PLEASE, i'm dying to see them. Quote:
are you saying he should go after Islam as a whole? because whether anyone wants to say it or not that's where the real terrorism comes from, wahabiism in particular. but of course then he'd be blamed for starting another Crusades. Quote:
those "few individuals" perpetrated the largest terrorist attack on US soil, call it jingoistic if you want but tracking down and killing the bastards responsible is a right and duty of any President, i understand your Canadian and probably partly French so i can see why you think rolling over and giving up would have been a better course of action. Quote:
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Wow span, you really outdone yourself this time
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BTW, I love USA and all it represents, freedom of speech and expression But these days I wonder if freedom of speach and expression are legal under Bush Adm. |
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You've turned into quite the loon in such a few short years, sad really, i used to think you were semi intelligent. i could run down the list of verified Al-Queda captures, Kahlid Mohhammad, Abu Zubaydah are 2 of the more prominent ones, both captured by Pakistani police, The Bear, a major financer/recruiter would be another but naming all these VERIFIED captures would be pointless, they aren't important to you. Quote:
i never said Al-Queda and Saddam were bed buddies, but it is fairly obvious that Saddam's actions(and the UN inaction btw) emboldened terrorists, including Osama. Quote:
you need to read/watch more news, no noe has mentioned a connection in months. and yes, for the record i don't think there was a connection but sometimes you have to scare useless institutions (cough cough UN cough cough) into action despite their own lethargy. Quote:
when there are 16 resolutions from supposed world authorities telling Bush to stop then you can come back to me with that arguement, until then it's at the least and bad comparisson and at the most ignorant. Quote:
so you support courageous martyrs that strap bombs to their chests for a chance to kill innocent women and children? color me suprised Quote:
OMG a country that looks after their own interests before the interests of others!?!?! SHOCKING!...let me provide a little info for you, the US doesn't give a damn about the Israeli cause, they are a democracy in the middle of islamofacist hell, that alone is reason to insure their survival at any means. if the jihadist succeding in felling Israel do you think they'd suddenly give up their weapons and quit? Quote:
so allies should be determined by a countries military might? then i guess Canada should have ZERO allies then. Quote:
oh yeah those Europeons just love the jews! i mean once you get past the part were they killed 6 million of them 60 years ago i guess they could tolerate them just enough to ignore the fact that Islam is trying to add even more to that number. someone once said "If Palestinians dropped their weapons they would get their own state, but if the Israeli's dropped theirs they would get pushed into the sea", i'd think that irrefutable fact would be enough to turn any Jihadi lover like you but unfortunately that would require a modicum of rational thought on your part. Quote:
you're all over the board here, gather up your facts and points before making a statement, thats the first rule of a debate. Quote:
you do realize if 9-11 didn't happen that there would be no war on terrorism? we didn't start this war you fool, 19 hijackers did. I think everyone was expecting (myself included) a rather ho-hum presidency from Bush. Quote:
again, not a change we asked for, they picked the fight, don't get your french panties in a bunch because someone finally had the balls to stand up to this shit. Quote:
honestly honey, no one cares about Canadian politics. Quote:
how do you go from a statement like " and he want's to impose on other countries and his own his own personnal religious beliefs." to "Bush might apply his own beliefs on the american ppl?" quite the flip flop their ms. menard, sure your last name isn't Kerry? Quote:
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i believe what is right and what i see, not what is told to me by my poli-sci professor or what i read on Indymedia. i guess that makes me "selective" Quote:
hahaha did you read that before hitting "submit"? thats like saying "i see nothing wrong with facisim exept for the whole killing millions thing". i thought you lefty tards were all about freedoms? wahabism preaches anything but that. Quote:
Daniel Pipes said it best; "Radical Islam is the disease and moderate Islam is the cure". someone has to drag that assbackwards religion, kicking and screaming if need be, out of the 12th century before they kill even more people. Quote:
but if they were they'd be working the soup kitchen. using "Canada" and "army" in the same sentence is punishable under the PATRIOT ACT. Quote:
if you think terrorism is locally confined to the US then you're a simpleton of the highest magnitude, i guess attacks in Bali and Riyadh along with a host of others don't count? Quote:
hey thats one you guys caught, now how many have you left slip through the border? Quote:
while it's painful to say, 500+ soldiers lost in 3 years during 2 wars is a pittance considering the amount of damage done to worldwide terrorism, and of course theres that whole part about freeing about 50 million people from their respective oppressive regimes. Quote:
a safer one, i can only imagine the world if Bush sat on hands after 9-11 and did nothing, talk about an open invitation to attack us again. Quote:
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TORONTO - A Canadian who was released from Guantanamo Bay in October says he lied about his family's ties with al-Qaeda and that he was trained to become a suicide bomber. In a documentary aired Wednesday on CBC's The National, Abdurahman Khadr said his father was old friends with al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden and that his brothers attended terrorist training camps. "Until now, everybody says we are an al-Qaeda-connected family but when I say this, just by me saying it, I just admitted we are an al-Qaeda family. We had connections to al-Qaeda," said Abdurahman Khadr. The family has always disputed claims that its patriarch, Ahmed Said Khadr, was a senior al-Qaeda operative and fundraiser, saying he collected money for charities. He was killed in Pakistan in October 2003. Abdurahman Khadr says he was sent to Afghanistan by his father "to become an al-Qaeda, was raised to become a suicide bomber, was raised to become a bad person." In 2001, Abdurahman was captured in Afghanistan and held at the U.S. military detention compound at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. He was freed last fall after agreeing to co-operate with U.S. authorities, he says. Another brother, Omar Khadr, is believed to be in the same prison. Abdurahman's mother, Maha, and sister, Zaynab, say the family supported the al-Qaeda cause, but insist it was never an accepted part of the terrorist organization. They say that Ahmed Said Khadr was proud to die as a shaheed, a soldier of Islam. "We believe that death comes when God had planned it, before He created the humanity, it's planned, so I just accept, [but] it hurt," said Maha. "We believe dying by the hand of your enemy because you believe in…you're doing it in the way of Allah, that it's the best way to die," said Zaynab. http://www.cbc.ca/storyview/MSN/2004/03/04/khadr_040304
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Only a shitless, gutless, coward low life like you would disclose one's true user name for all to see on a public board. You want to have your name known publically, it's your own damned buisness, just don't do it to others who have a differents views of what is happening than your own. What you did was a breach of my privacy and that is an unacceptable behaviour from your part. Quote:
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All points being said, I will not stoop lower than your low life class span, and also BTW, if you want to give out my full name for the world to see on a BB, atleast have the decency to SPELL IT RIGHT you wallnut sized brained idiot. scooobiedooobie, thanks for the info on this Don't have the time to read all news allday long |
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if you want to read more about the canadian al-qaeda khadr family, there are about 1000 links on the web.
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Warning EDIT: Do not disclose personal member details - play the topic and not the person. - gaz
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since you're stupid i'll let you in on some info, in a crisis like that the Secret Service has the only say in what the president does, he was taken out of harms way until it was safe for a HEAD OF STATE to appear, no one knew how many planes were out there hijacked, it's called due caution. look into it Quote:
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Same goes here I do apologise to the rest of the napsterite community for the excessive use of those darn smilies in this post |
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Regarding the letter published Wednesday titled "Israel's wall a restrained defense": What restraint? Since September 2000, less than 1,000 Israelis were killed and 6,145 were injured by Palestinians. Contrast this with the Palestinian deaths and injuries for the same period: 2,711 deaths and 24,734 injuries (a third were children under the age of 15). Every suicide bombing is usually a major story in the media, accompanied with live photos of Israeli victims and expressions of shock and horror. Palestinian deaths receive hardly any or no reporting in the media; sometimes they are just scrolled across the bottom of the screen on CNN.from you cant really beat picking off kids from a US supplied helicopter...now thats really tough... |
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