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but the Prez is not the man his father was. Bush Sr. has been down this road before with Rove and dealt with it quite differently: Quote:
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the obvious question at this point is this: When did the President first learn of Karl Rove's involvement in this case? |
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meanwhile, yet another rough day for Scott McLellan:
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Do you really think they're that dense knife?
Anyway I see Valerie Plame wasn't really retired, just on leave. My mistake. http://talkleft.com/new_archives/011346.html July 04, 2005-Valerie Plame has returned to work at the CIA after a year's leave of absence. She won't, however, be resuming undercover work. Guess her career wasn't ended either way. And Jack why would a woman want her husband sent to Paris where love affairs among the politicos are practically expected. Seems Niger would be just the place to ensure fidelity and help him appreciate her more. . Last edited by albed : 13-07-05 at 07:13 PM. |
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MSNBC's Howard Fineman on the press and the Rove story:
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Feeling the need to justify the rabid ferocity the liberals are exhibiting nowdays?
So it's not so much that they hate Rove but that they let down Saddam. And now they can't forgive themselves for their failures. But savaging Scott McLellan will fix everything of course. |
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If you're interested in watching a good video on Karl Rove check out Bush's Brain over at NetFlix. It details his rise and other things he had been accused of.
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U'd think this thread was about that bitch hillery (pls notice lack of respect given toward spelling & caps).
I really, really hate that slimey ####. I betca she's pushed the button on more than one life.
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keep your eye on the ball, from the Minneapolis Star-Trib:
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So, in this 'did Karl Rove commit treason?' thread, the "ball" is bouncing away like a rat leaving a sinking ship.
I guess the dogs have been barking up the wrong tree. Or at the wrong ball. I hope the liberals have the decency to apologize for their reckless accusations. |
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Karl Rove's Nondisclosure Agreement
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Smokes and mirrors? Politics will always be played. Treason is just a word here. This is the real world. Do you really have faith in our system? I hope so. Because,If you do,truth and decency(and lots of other things) should sit side by side. Tall order I know. I've been told Faith moves mountains we'll see. "The decency to apologize for their reckless accusations" Please think about this statment a little and reflect. God does not pay his debts in money.
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after a week of spin and obfuscation by Rove's lawyer and the GOP, thier act gets sideswiped by Time Magazine reporter Matt Cooper's grand jury testimony:
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And you must have gotten him pretty deep in hock somehow. Don't see how it's relevant but I guess it goes back to beer. |
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Press Fudges Bush Plamegate Pledge
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2...8/224504.shtml
The press is claiming that President Bush has changed his pledge to fire anyone in his administration involved in leaking Valerie Plame's name - saying he's now added the qualifier, "If someone committed a crime." But that's exactly what Bush said when he was first asked about the Plame case on Sept. 30, 2003. Quote:
On Monday, Bush made it clear his position hadn't changed one bit. Asked about the Plame case, he explained: "If someone committed a crime, they will no longer work in my administration." Still, that didn't stop the Associated Press from charging: "On Monday, however,[Bush] added the qualifier that it would have be shown that a crime was committed." The AP cited a June 10, 2004, news conference, where according to the wire service, a reporter simply asked if Bush stood by his earlier pledge to fire anyone found to have leaked Plame's name. Bush answered, "Yes. And that's up to the U.S. attorney to find the facts." But the full June 10, 2004 exchange was somewhat more complicated: REPORTER: Given recent developments in the CIA leak case, particularly Vice President Cheney's discussions with the investigators, do you still stand by what you said several months ago, suggesting that it might be difficult to identify anybody who leak the agent's name? And do you stand by your pledge to fire anyone found to have done so? BUSH: Yes. And that's up to the U.S. attorney to find the facts. [End of Excerpt] Any honest reading of that exchange would acknowledge that when Bush answered, "Yes" - he meant he was standing by his earlier statement, not the reporter's distorted version: "Do you stand by your pledge to fire anyone found to have done so?" Bush hadn't offered any such pledge. But what he had said several months previous was that if the leaker had "violated the law," he'd be "taken care of." |
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take your pick on that one, no?
he'll be "taken of care of" if he violated the law (what is bush now, a mobster? i don't know what the hell that means...) - or - do you stand by your earlier pledge to fire anyone [who leak the agent's name]? "yes." (i sure know what that means). but he can still clear things up easily enough by simply holding a press conference and stating, "All YOU LITTLE SHITS WILL ADDRESS ME AS MR. PRESIDENT. GOT IT!? Now then…any leakers working for me will not be disciplined, ever, regardless of the effect on national security, or terrorism, or defense, or any policy whatsoever unless, because of that specific leak, they find themselves convicted in a court a law, and their multi-year appeals process exhausted. Leaks are fine. I’m on the record as advocating an open administration, right? Look it up. It's ok to do that one. I encourage whisper campaigns to reporters. It's good for the process. Destroy anyone openly critical of me, my incompetence, my unquenchable thirst for power and my constant lying. That's what it's about. As President – Mr. President - I take full responsibility for the leaks done in my name and if my leakers kill American agents, destroy a war hero or three or a city or two I can live with it. Price of freedom. I was elected Mr. President not you...especially not you. Yeah I'm looking at you. Got something to say? What? No? Didn’t think so. Good. So long as it shifts attention away from me and my policies to turn America into a religious feudal dictatorship it's fine. Fine. No problem. But if the leak damages me or has the potential to damage me ever, no matter how little, the leaker will be executed and his family destroyed by my secret police. I think that covers it, huh? Let’s move on. Anyone asking why the twins aren't serving will get a whisper campaign. A bad one heh. Audited too. For starters. NEXT QUESTION!" now that's pretty clear. - js. |
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