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It’s crazy, but it’s coming soon – from the same folks who brought us Iraq.
Unlike the attack on Iraq five years ago, to deal with Iran there need be no massing of troops. And, with the propaganda buildup already well under way, there need be little, if any, forewarning before shock and awe and pox – in the form of air and missile attacks – begin. This time it will be largely the Air Force’s show, punctuated by missile and air strikes by the Navy. Israeli-American agreement has now been reached at the highest level; the armed forces planners, plotters and pilots are working out the details. Emerging from a 90-minute White House meeting with President George W. Bush on June 4, Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said the two leaders were of one mind: “We reached agreement on the need to take care of the Iranian threat. I left with a lot less question marks [than] I had entered with regarding the means, the timetable restrictions, and American resoluteness to deal with the problem. George Bush understands the severity of the Iranian threat and the need to vanquish it, and intends to act on that matter before the end of his term in the White House.” Does that sound like a man concerned that Bush is just bluff and bluster? A member of Olmert’s delegation noted that same day that the two countries had agreed to cooperate in case of an attack by Iran, and that “the meetings focused on ‘operational matters’ pertaining to the Iranian threat.” So bring ‘em on! A show of hands please. How many believe Iran is about to attack the U.S. or Israel? You say you missed Olmert’s account of what Bush has undertaken to do? So did I. We are indebted to intrepid journalist Chris Hedges for including the quote in his article of June 8, “The Iran Trap.” We can perhaps be excused for missing Olmert’s confident words about “Israel’s best friend” that week. Your attention – like mine – may have been riveted on the June 5 release of the findings of the Senate Intelligence Committee regarding administration misrepresentations of pre-Iraq-war intelligence – the so-called “Phase II” investigation (also known, irreverently, as the “Waiting-for-Godot Study”). Better late than never, I suppose. Oversight? Yet I found myself thinking: It took them five years, and that is what passes for oversight? Yes, the president and vice president and their courtiers lied us into war. And now a bipartisan report could assert that fact formally; and committee chair Jay Rockefeller could sum it up succinctly: “In making the case for war, the administration repeatedly presented intelligence as fact when in reality it was unsubstantiated, contradicted, or even non-existent. As a result, the American people were led to believe that the threat from Iraq was much greater than actually existed.” But as I listened to Senator Rockefeller, I had this sinking feeling that in five or six years time, those of us still around will be listening to a very similar post mortem looking back on an even more disastrous attack on Iran. My colleagues and I in Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS) issued repeated warnings, before the invasion of Iraq, about the warping of intelligence. And our memoranda met considerable resonance in foreign media. We could get no ink or airtime, however, in the Fawning Corporate Media (FCM) in the U.S. Nor can we now. In a same-day critique of Colin Powell’s unfortunate speech to the U.N. on Feb. 5, 2003, we warned the president to widen his circle of advisers “beyond those clearly bent on a war for which we see no compelling reason and from which we believe the unintended consequences are likely to be catastrophic.” It was a no-brainer for anyone who knew anything about intelligence, the Middle East, and the brown noses leading intelligence analysis at the CIA. Former U.N. senior weapons inspector and former Marine major, Scott Ritter, and many others were saying the same thing. But none of us could get past the president’s praetorian guard to drop a memo into his in-box, so to speak. Nor can we now. The “Iranian Threat” However much the same warnings are called for now with respect to Iran, there is even less prospect that any contrarians could puncture and break through what former White House spokesman Scott McClellan calls the president’s “bubble.” By all indications, Vice President Dick Cheney and his huge staff continue to control the flow of information to the president. But, you say, the president cannot be unaware of the far-reaching disaster an attack on Iran would bring? Well, this is a president who admits he does not read newspapers, but rather depends on his staff to keep him informed. And the memos Cheney does brief to Bush pooh-pooh the dangers. This time no one is saying we will be welcomed as liberators, since the planning does not include – officially, at least – any U.S. boots on the ground. Besides, even on important issues like the price of gasoline, the performance of the president’s staff has been spotty. Think back on the White House press conference of Feb. 28, when Bush was asked what advice he would give to Americans facing the prospect of $4-a-gallon gasoline. “Wait, what did you just say?” the president interrupted. “You’re predicting $4-a-gallon gasoline?…That’s interesting. I hadn’t heard that.” A poll in January showed that nearly three-quarters of Americans were expecting $4-a-gallon gas. That forecast was widely reported in late February, and discussed by the White House press secretary at the media briefing the day before the president’s press conference. Here’s the alarming thing: Unlike Iraq, which was prostrate after the Gulf War and a dozen years of sanctions, Iran can retaliate in a number of dangerous ways, launching a war for which our forces are ill-prepared. The lethality, intensity and breadth of ensuing hostilities will make the violence in Iraq look, in comparison, like a volleyball game between St. Helena’s High School and Mount St. Ursula. Cheney’s Brainchild Attacking Iran is Vice President Dick Cheney’s brainchild, if that is the correct word. Cheney proposed launching air strikes last summer on Iranian Revolutionary Guards bases, but was thwarted by the Joint Chiefs of Staff who insisted that would be unwise, according to J. Scott Carpenter, a senior State Department official at the time. Chastened by the unending debacle in Iraq, this time around Pentagon officials reportedly are insisting on a “policy decision” regarding “what would happen after the Iranians would go after our folks,” according to Carpenter. Serious concerns include the vulnerability of the critical U.S. supply line from Kuwait to Baghdad, our inability to reinforce and the eventual possibility that the U.S. might be forced into a choice between ignominious retreat and using, or threatening to use, “mini-nukes.” Pentagon opposition was confirmed in a July 2007 commentary by former Bush adviser Michael Gerson, who noted the “fear of the military leadership” that Iran would have “escalation dominance” in any conflict with the U.S. Writing in the Washington Post last July, Gerson indicated that “escalation dominance” means, “in a broadened conflict, the Iranians could complicate our lives in Iraq and the region more than we complicate theirs.” The Joint Chiefs also have opposed the option of attacking Iran’s nuclear sites, according to former Iran specialist at the National Security Council, Hillary Mann, who has close ties with senior Pentagon officials. ...more |
22-06-08, 08:02 AM | #243 |
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Bombings and missile attacks are one thing, but as I've always maintained, an invasion by ground troops cannot succeed and thus will not be attempted.
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22-06-08, 10:33 AM | #244 | |
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What makes you think bombings and missile attacks are going to succeed?
All I can see it succeeding in doing is making another huge foreign policy blunder. There is much more important operations in Afghanistan needed, before you start doing something stupid like that.You already have some rouge elements in Pakistan attacking border regions, Quote:
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24-06-08, 01:06 PM | #245 |
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25-06-08, 03:45 AM | #246 |
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little to no risk to who exactly?
are you just thinking of the US ground forces that have been dying at about 1500 a year for the last five years? surely you can't be serious , no long term consequences at all ? |
25-06-08, 07:01 AM | #247 |
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There's no risk to a soldier who pushes a button and launches a missile 500 miles away from his target.
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25-06-08, 03:30 PM | #248 |
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Oh ffs it'll be a bombing attack; no missile can carry the big ground penetrators and bunker busters needed, and wtf are ground pounders going to do? Dig into the facilities with shovels? The goal is to destroy nuclear processing facilities; nothing more. Iran will have the next move.
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26-06-08, 12:44 AM | #249 |
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what about the people in the area after the facility has been destroyed?
an attack like this could change diplomatic relations in the world for decades if not forever it really could backfire in so many ways it's not funny, that's if it goes ahead hopefully common sense will prevail |
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Common sense? You're talking about Christian Fundamentalists attacking Muslim Fundamentalists. Common sense isn't allowed.
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26-06-08, 06:49 AM | #251 |
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Diplomatic resolution to this problem isn't impossible ,though they would have us think otherwise. N.Korea is destroying it's nuclear facilities all by itself. Bush seems pretty committed to make sure the Christian Fundamentalist 'end time' becomes a reality Provoking Muslims for just long enough now at the behest of the Israel lobby, like poking a caged animal with a stick ... something like this should be just enough to break the the camels crack... i mean back. Like every other act in the so called 'war on terrorism' it will been designed to promote more hate on both sides, with more fake WMD ,and plenty more propaganda based on falsified intelligence reports Israel Rehearses Iran Attack http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6xApA38InA |
27-06-08, 05:46 AM | #252 |
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You can't talk sense to bullys.
You have to stand up to them at what ever cost. Now we all have to decide which side is the bully. That's a touch call.
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Is a cooling tower really a "nuclear facility"? Maybe you just don't know wtf you're talking about.
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Documents linking Iran to nuclear weapons push may have been fabricated
The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) has obtained evidence suggesting that documents which have been described as technical studies for a secret Iranian nuclear weapons-related research program may have been fabricated. The documents in question were acquired by U.S. intelligence in 2004 from a still unknown source -- most of them in the form of electronic files allegedly stolen from a laptop computer belonging to an Iranian researcher. The US has based much of its push for sanctions against Iran on these documents. The new evidence of possible fraud has increased pressure within the IAEA secretariat to distance the agency from the laptop documents, according to a Vienna-based diplomatic source close to the IAEA |
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