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29-08-08, 01:17 PM | #1 | |
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Sarah who?
McCain throws the Hail Mary pass:
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-two years ago, she was the part-time mayor of a village in Alaska - this would potentially put her a 73-year-old heart beat away from the Presidency. so much for the for "inexperienced" line of attack from the GOP. -she's a reformer who's currently under an ethics investigation in her own state. -obviously, a painfully transparent attempt to woo Hillary supporters...no man with her resume would have even been considered. -but hey, she's a creationist - maybe we can bring those disgruntled conservative Christians back into the fold. but it will be fun to see her debate Joe Biden, no? edit: oh yeah, almost forgot: she's the protege of Alaska GOP Senator Ted Stevens, who's political machine boosted her from part-time mayor to governor in two short years. unfortunately, Uncle Ted is also under indictment for various forms of corruption and scheduled to go to trial next month, which should keep him in the headlines right up until the elction. |
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29-08-08, 03:49 PM | #2 | ||
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I'm now completely convinced: the GOP is playing for the lose with candidates who can take the hit because they'll never be in national politics again.
If the GOP had put a good candidate in as Pres, and a good candidate in as his VP, and they had lost then they would have been damaged goods in 2012. McCain and Whatshername are throw-away candidates for a year the GOP was expecting to lose anyways. Imagine if McCain won and dropped dead: clueless soccer-mom President! lol Š
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31-08-08, 07:52 AM | #3 |
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Šiego, keep in mind that voters, not the GOP, picked McCain (only God knows why ). Had the party leadership had more say in the nomination they would have nominated somebody better than him. I know I would have.
As for the choice of Palin for running mate, more state governors have been elected president than congressmen. However, had McCain picked Romney then a lot of conservative Christians would have abstained from voting this year so he was out of the question. Having the only governor in the race on his ticket makes McCain that much more electable. I think you're right, knife, that he chose a woman to steal Hilary supporters from the Dems, and it's gonna work but it won't be enough to edge out Obama. |
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01-09-08, 02:43 AM | #5 |
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I don't quite think having experience with Firearms up to M4's, M16's, Mother of 5 Children (one of which is challenged), is NOT at ALL typical to the middle-class, hard working American woman. That's the exact reason WHY those middle-class, hardworking women are so turned OFF by her. You could say they are intimidated by her. Seriously?
How can any "decent" mother leave the side of her 5 month old baby - a special needs baby, especially - to follow her political aspirations?
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01-09-08, 03:21 AM | #6 |
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Apparently it's not her baby ...
it's her grand-daughter or something.. |
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Hillary supporters supported Hillary, not 'woman', and not just any woman can be substituted. An interesting fact which hasn't hit the press yet: Palin is a member of, and was put in government in Alaska by, the Alaska Independence Party. The AIP’s main aim is to secede from the United States, becoming either a territory or a sovereign nation. They aim to be entirely "self-sufficient" using profits from the oil and gas resources of the state. On their website, you find this: Quote:
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Here is a quote from an interview Hickel did with the Alaska Dispatch: Quote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oro2Yh9HoEM So, besides the fact that she doesn’t know what the VP does everyday, Palin wants to be VP only if it’s a good thing for Alaska? Sarah Palin has a lot of questions to answer about whether she supports Alaska’s right to secede, whether she’s figured out what her job as VP will be, and whether she’s in it to send money or profits to her state. here she is addressing the Alaska Indelendance Party convention: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwvPNXYrIyI This is from the convention itself. About half way through the speech (at about 6:00), the Vice Chairman of the AIP, Dexter Clark, says this Independenceof Palin: "Our current governor who I mentioned at the last conference, the one we were hoping would get elected, Sarah Palin, did get elected . . . .and there was a lot of talk about her moving up. She was an AIP member before she got the job as mayor . . . " http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHFY1otOWjQ This is from further on in the same speech from Dexter Clark, the Vice Chairman from the AIP. In it, he talks about the necessity of infiltrating the major national parties in order to further the goals of the AIP. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9RDjKN8t4w Telling stuff and it comes before even mentioning that she is anti-abortion AND anti-contraception AND anti-anti-SexEd AND pro-creationism in the schools as Science. When Obama says her choice is 'more of the same' he couldn't be more right. if she was any closer to the 'family values' Bush forces on the US and the world, they'd be seimese twins. Quote:
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This is TOO good!
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01-09-08, 11:05 AM | #9 | |
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fundee famlee valuz
labor day news
little bristol is going to be in labor in a few months! how sweet. oh wait, they're christian fundies. so that meant abstinence, not birth control. great plan there sarah. btw, didn't she elope back when? from wonkette: Quote:
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01-09-08, 03:53 PM | #10 |
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this could be, indeed (or, how an Internet rumor takes off). somebody at Kos put together a interesting series of photos during the Guv's latest pregnancy: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8...137/486/580223
the photo at seven months is particularly striking - my gal pal says no way. she might work out yet for McCain, but the first 72 hours can't be encouraging for his campaign. thus far, she's sort of a mashup of all the classic VP fiascos - what you might expect if you threw Dan Quayle, Spiro Agnew, and Thomas Eagleton into a blender. |
01-09-08, 07:31 PM | #11 | |
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LOL oops maybe not..then still something smells a bit fishy |
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01-09-08, 11:45 PM | #12 | |
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oh the delicious irony as y'all jump aboard and ride the Obama sleaze machine for all it's worth. i am Laughing My Fucking Ass Off reading your posts while you hypocrites seem to be oblivious to the fact that you have become all that you profess to despise as you encourage and pass on smears and innuendo. guess you really didn't hate Karl Rove, just that he was a Republican. as for her "inexperience" ---- by actually running a city as mayor, and a state as governor, she has racked up more executive experience than all of the other candidates combined. and in case you weren't sure, running for the office of President of the United States does not qualify as actual executive experience. we'll see how it all plays out, my guess is that it's just another case of democrats underestimating republicans. as America gets to know her during this campaign, they'll probably like her a lot, she doesn't have an 80% approval rate in Alaska for nothing. these VP choices do say an awful lot about the two Presidential candidates though. the supposed candidate for "change" plays it safe and picks a Washington insider and power player; while the angry, too old, supposed "same old same old" Republican picks an unknown woman. a screenwriter couldn't have dreamed up a more interesting plot twist. cheers =] Last edited by daddydirt : 02-09-08 at 12:07 AM. |
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Rovian? hardly. We're just doing the vetting that McCain didn't bother to do before deciding who he wanted to be President should he get elected and die; the former not so possible, the latter extremely so.
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What a buffoon. He couldn't have anyone he wanted and so made a brash decision like a petulant child. And you want this moron deciding the direction of this nation and how it deals in international affairs? Not by half! More proof that McCain lacks the experience and judgment required for the highest office in the land, not that any more was needed; the guy is a raving loon. It has been said that McCain takes the judgment of whomever has his ear at the moment and this time it was Rick Davis. Rick would have been better served selecting himself Š 8)
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02-09-08, 04:24 AM | #14 |
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Damn it's like propaganda diarrhea time; Palin must be pretty upsetting to certain types. But the fact that almost nothing is about her political views or character indicates there is little to object to.
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Oh really? So, you don't think America will mind that she is against Sex-Ed? For abstinence only? Against contraception, even for married couples? For teaching creationism as science in the schools?
You don't think it matters that she was, and most probably still is, at least at heart, a member of the Alaska Independence Party? Maybe you believe no one will notice that when speaking of her decision to carry her Down's Syndrome baby to term she was speaking of her having a choice and that when she announced her daughter had decided to have her baby and marry her boyfriend, she was again speaking of choice; the exact same choice she would deny to the women of America? Or that perhaps no one will care that her first action in office as mayor was to fire the entire board? That she attempted to get books banned from the town library? Staged a personal vendetta against her ex-brother-in-law? People may well overlook the fact that her first speech had lies in it such as being against earmark spending to the point of turning down Congressional funding for the 'Bridge To Nowhere' or that she opposed political corruption? 'Almost nothing is about her political views or character indicates there is little to object to'? You are off your tiny little misguided mind. Š
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02-09-08, 05:48 AM | #16 |
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And another gusher gets blown out your ass; "probably-at least at heart". Honesty just isn't in your psyche.
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Well now, if Obama had been in the Communist party in college, how would you look at him being a Democrat today? Double standards much?
Has it been proven she was in the Alaska Independence Party? yes. Has she shown she is no longer in tune with their beliefs? Not at all. In fact, quite the opposite. When asked, jsut last month, about her chance of being selected as McCain VP pick her words were, and I'm quoting here, "As for that VP talk all the time, I'll tell you, I still can't answer that question until somebody answers for me what is it exactly that the VP does every day? I'm used to being very productive and working real hard in an administration. We want to make sure that that VP slot would be a fruitful type of position, especially for Alaskans.." You can watch it here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ys4HGbiONY So when it comes to 'blow' and 'ass' it seems McCain has that covered. Š
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02-09-08, 07:05 AM | #18 |
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Um, what's so bad about the AIP? If Alaska became its own nation I'd be tempted to attain dual citizenship and go live there myself.
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Why don't you get an early start then, beat the rush
Anyone supporting any state seceding from the Union is a fringe group and doesn't have the best interest of the US at heart. 'The' prerequisite for running the office of Vice President of the United States of America is holding the interests of the United States of America as your primary aspiration. Anything less is treason is it not? Š
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02-09-08, 07:56 AM | #20 |
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I think the best interests of the people are what a candidate should be dedicated to.
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