Iran: A Bridge too Far?

[vernarial]

No. I think these are the people that were raised on violence and whose first response to conflict will usually be violence. These are people who have never experienced war first hand and so the thought of war has no serious negative connotations or implications. It's just another way to deal with a problem.

[albed]

Nope, those are just people who are familiar with the long, continuous history of particularly vicious violence firmly embedded in middle eastern culture and conclude that the world would be a better place if the whole region was exterminated.

[multi]

then what?

you will never build another society there like the the US did with Japan after WW2.

No big nasty bombs dropped yet but the troops are returning home with radiation poisoning anyway?

so.... a good part of the M.E. gets wiped out by the US and Israel, then bloody what?

that will not get rid of all the radical Islamics in the world.

I would bet there would be just a few left in Pakistan and Southest Asia.. all probably very pissed off.



Ah... I love a good crusade !

[vernarial]

Originally Posted by albed

Nope, those are just people who are familiar with the long, continuous history of particularly vicious violence firmly embedded in middle eastern culture and conclude that the world would be a better place if the whole region was exterminated.

I'm glad you know my friends better than I do, Albed. What would I do without you to show me how to be intolerant.

[albed]

You'd be stupid and tolerant.

[JackSpratts]

christ your "civilised" christian west has butchered more people in the last 100 years than the muslims have in the last 1100. these followers of mohammad have a lot of catching up to do just to equal our barbarism. we've set a fine example. 8-|

- js.

[albed]

Well you can just hop right on over there with your drinking habit and western music collection and start endorsing gay marriage and finally be free of the barbarous western culture with it's murderous oppression of nazi germany, facist japan and the like.


I'll buy your fucking ticket.

[multi]

There was intent in suppressing the oppression of nazi germany & facist japan and it was not to end up becoming them ( or possibly something far worse)

[malvachat]

Originally Posted by albed

I'll buy your fucking ticket.

What????
And leave you all alone in the world.
That's a tempting offer.
Will you buy one for me as well.
Want my Paypal link?
Or are you lying?
Your not a credible source,I don't belive anything you say.

[multi]

There are many other examples of failure on the part of the Democrats in both Houses. They are called weak-kneed, overly sensitive on the security issue, unable for a variety of reasons to take on the President now that they control Congress. However, there is one factor, a key indicator, that runs throughout these failures and that is the amounts of money that key Democratic Congressmen and Senators receive from the Israel Lobby. The Center for Responsive Politics, on their website www.opensecrets.org, tallies the contributions that candidates receive from what they have identified as pro-Israel PACs. Taking the Center’s list of pro-Israel PACs and adding up contributions given by those PACs to various Congressional candidates from 1979 through 2006, a remarkable fact comes through—the current Democratic leadership team in Congress has received twice as much pro- Israel PAC money as the Republicans! According to my figures, individuals serving on the current Democratic Senate leadership team have received $1,955,995 from pro-Israel PACs, whereas their Republican counterparts have received $907,585 directly from the same PACs. In the House, $469,082 has been received by the Democratic leadership team, with just $243,450 going to the Republicans. Included in these numbers are $341,037 to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, $279,206 to Majority Whip Richard Durbin, and $216,100 to Democratic Outreach Chair Jeff Bingaman. In the House Speaker Pelosi has received $84,900, Steny Hoyer $140,626, and Rahm Emanuel a smaller but significant $17,000.

These figures for the Democratic leadership team do not include the amounts from pro-Israel PACs received by Independent Senator Joseph Lieberman. The same data sources indicate that Sen. Lieberman has received $344,750 from these PACs since 1979. In 2005-2006 the same individuals who gave money to the pro-Israel PACs also contributed directly to Sen. Lieberman an additional $900,000, minimum, in helping him get reelected as an Independent after losing the Democratic primary. And it hardly needs pointing out that Lieberman, by agreeing to caucus with the Senate Democrats, has enormous leverage over issues of his choosing in that body. At the top of his agenda, of course, is U.S. Middle East policy.

http://www.opednews.com/articles/ope..._money__es.htm