Iran: A Bridge too Far? - P2P-Zone

Mazer · 01-03-07, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by theknife

this can only be a positive development

I agree, and it's about time. Maybe it took this long to soften up Iran's economy enough to make them willing to compromise, or maybe Bush was just a stubborn ass. Either way I expect this will improve our relations with their nation, perhaps permanently.

theknife · 01-03-07, 07:40 PM

it's ironic that the standard US mantra re Syria & Iran is always "all options are on the table" - a phrase that is designed to raise the ominous specter of every dreadful weapon we have, but precludes good old-fashioned diplomacy.

Mazer · 01-03-07, 11:12 PM

We needed to have something Iran wanted in order for the talks to achieve anything. I think what they really want from us is our money for their oil, and China's money, too. In other words, we had no reason to engage them in diplomacy until we had something to offer them. Our government has no sense of irony at all. The threat of war was calculated, intended not for the headlines of Farsi or Arabic newspapers but of English ones.

Drakonix · 02-03-07, 12:24 AM

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but precludes good old-fashioned diplomacy

Maybe that is what YOU think, you can believe whatever you want - but that is NOT FACT, whether you choose to recognize it or not.

ALL OPTIONS means exactly that, and DOES NOT preclude diplomacy.

Diplomacy ALWAYS comes first, it is the first option - and that is what is being used now. The U.N. sanctions against Iran are part of that diplomatic process and did not get in place only due to the U.S. vote for them. The vote was UNANIMOUS.

theknife · 02-03-07, 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Drakonix

Maybe that is what YOU think, you can believe whatever you want - but that is NOT FACT, whether you choose to recognize it or not.

ALL OPTIONS means exactly that, and DOES NOT preclude diplomacy.

like in iraq?

albed · 02-03-07, 08:33 AM

What good is all this "diplomacy" shit when countries don't abide by their signed agreements.

Oh right, it's to give the brainless liberal traitors another reason to condemn the U.S.

multi · 02-03-07, 08:43 AM

the only traitors are the ones who still support a government that is clearly sending them down the drain

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01-03-07, 07:40 PM	#2
theknife my name is Ranking Fullstop Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Promontorium Tremendum Posts: 4,391	it's ironic that the standard US mantra re Syria & Iran is always "all options are on the table" - a phrase that is designed to raise the ominous specter of every dreadful weapon we have, but precludes good old-fashioned diplomacy.

01-03-07, 11:12 PM	#3
Mazer Earthbound misfit Join Date: May 2001 Location: Moses Lake, Washington Posts: 2,563	We needed to have something Iran wanted in order for the talks to achieve anything. I think what they really want from us is our money for their oil, and China's money, too. In other words, we had no reason to engage them in diplomacy until we had something to offer them. Our government has no sense of irony at all. The threat of war was calculated, intended not for the headlines of Farsi or Arabic newspapers but of English ones.

02-03-07, 08:33 AM	#6
albed flippin 'em off Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: the real world Posts: 3,232	What good is all this "diplomacy" shit when countries don't abide by their signed agreements. Oh right, it's to give the brainless liberal traitors another reason to condemn the U.S.