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Old 03-01-07, 01:23 PM   #1
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i'm not sure where you get the tie-in to Bush's popularity, but at any rate...
Sorry, I'm stretching here a bit, but it seems that the less popular Bush gets the more people long for the tranquility of servitude mentioned above (or else the illusion of it from our point of view) that Saddam imposed. Perhaps the correlation is indirect and I'm out of line bringing it up, but there's no doubt such a correlation exists. People implicitly declare Bush a fool when suggesting that Hussein governed his people wisely by comparison. Such assessments are mostly close-minded, knee-jerk reactions from what I can tell; how else could people so blithely excuse the evil actions of Hussein and his government? Saddam could only look like a good leader to the kind of people who might consider any elected American president his moral equivalent.
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Old 03-01-07, 02:27 PM   #2
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Sorry, I'm stretching here a bit, but it seems that the less popular Bush gets the more people long for the tranquility of servitude mentioned above (or else the illusion of it from our point of view) that Saddam imposed. Perhaps the correlation is indirect and I'm out of line bringing it up, but there's no doubt such a correlation exists. People implicitly declare Bush a fool when suggesting that Hussein governed his people wisely by comparison. Such assessments are mostly close-minded, knee-jerk reactions from what I can tell; how else could people so blithely excuse the evil actions of Hussein and his government? Saddam could only look like a good leader to the kind of people who might consider any elected American president his moral equivalent.
at the end of the day, it doesn't really matter how lofty your intentions are, how noble is your cause, how stirring your slogans are, if all you do is get a bunch of people killed. and since that really all Bush has done in Iraq, than he shares a special place with Saddam.
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Old 03-01-07, 03:05 PM   #3
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Well....
"lofty intentions", "noble cause", "stirring slogans", and a heavy dose of killing made the United States a country.

The deaths of many thousands gave and maintain the freedom of speech and other rights you have. Some still believe the sacrifices of our forefathers meant something and appreciate what they died to accomplish.

What is happening in Iraq right now is a good example of how hard freedom is to gain and how easy it is to lose.
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Old 03-01-07, 04:54 PM   #4
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BUT MY GOD THEY'RE GOING WITHOUT WATER AND ELECTRICITY!


It's enough to make whining liberals long for Saddam's brutal rule.





If they weren't all over here that is.
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Well....
"lofty intentions", "noble cause", "stirring slogans", and a heavy dose of killing made the United States a country.

The deaths of many thousands gave and maintain the freedom of speech and other rights you have. Some still believe the sacrifices of our forefathers meant something and appreciate what they died to accomplish.

What is happening in Iraq right now is a good example of how hard freedom is to gain and how easy it is to lose.
apples and oranges, drak - what's happening in Iraq is not even remotely comparable to the American experience. the iraqis didn't askfor this situation - they had it imposed upon them by an occupying army that the vast majority of them wish would leave. our forefathers weren't locked into tribal warfare with each other - they were smart to know they would have to put their national ambitions above local loyalties in order to build a country. the iraqis are not willing to do that - there is nothing we can do for them until they are ready to do so.
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Well be sure to let your local police know that if your neighbors start killing your kids and blowing up your house, there's nothing they can do about it and you just wish they'd leave.
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Old 06-01-07, 09:25 AM   #7
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sadaam is now a martyr to many, and that dangerous sentiment is spreading rapidly across the arab world. reports say the previous anger directed at sadaam for his murderous reign has been largely forgiven. instead in this disastrous turn of events they are now aiming their rage against both the "puppet" government in iraq and the united states - specifically because of the guard's humiliation of sadaam and his perceived strength of character displayed standing up to them at his execution.

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"His public image in the Arab world, formerly that of a convicted dictator, has undergone a resurgence of admiration and awe.

On the streets, in newspapers and over the Internet, Mr. Hussein has emerged as a Sunni Arab hero who stood calm and composed as his Shiite executioners tormented and abused him.

In Morocco and the Palestinian territories, demonstrators held aloft photographs of Mr. Hussein and condemned the United States.

In Libya a statue depicting Mr. Hussein in the gallows would be erected.

By standing up to the United States and its client government in Baghdad and dying with seeming dignity, Mr. Hussein appears to have been virtually cleansed of his past.

'God damn America and its spies,' a banner across one major Beirut thoroughfare read. 'Our condolences to the nation for the assassination of Saddam, and victory to the Iraqi resistance.'"


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ahahaha..what a fucking balls up
good work !

this is how history will remember this BS war
what an added embarrasment for those that blindly supported it
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