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18-12-06, 05:20 PM | #1 |
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I have never used the original Waste client. Perhaps I will try it out. One thing I do like about v1.6 (this may also be true for other versions but I know it is not the case with the original) is that it acts as a standalone exe. You can run it without having to install. This is a big plus in my book.
Anyway, thanks for the info. I'll check out the original version sometime soon. -AngryGnome |
18-12-06, 06:14 PM | #2 |
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Hell, Jack, you make it sound like there's no room for improvement.
So, most of the WASTE updates up 'till now have been cosmetic. Big deal. Official is a useless term in the open source world to begin with. Which one is the 'official' GNU/Linux distribution? There is no such thing. Is Cohen's mainline BitTorrent client the 'official' client, or just the one that came first? Bittorrent purists are actually shying away from the mainline client because it's designed to participate in BitTorrent's nascent commercial distribution network. Being the only client that is actively developed by the original Bittorrent creator doesn't make it the only useful one. Frankel has disowned his own creations. He quit Nullsoft because he no longer had control over Winamp's development. He didn't participate in Gnutella's development after he leaked the source code almost seven years ago, and it still became ubiquitous without his help. Now WASTE is languishing in relative obscurity and has not attracted any new developers in more than a year. Useful as it is, it's becoming more dinosauric as time goes by while Frankel has moved on to bigger and better projects. WASTE is the 8-track of secure file sharing. It's time for something better. |
18-12-06, 06:54 PM | #3 |
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What would you suggest these days, Mazer? I know you still use Waste. Is there a better option? Just wondering, not looking for debate.
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18-12-06, 09:56 PM | #4 | ||
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AllPeers looks like a good alternative, though it does lack a group chat feature. It doesn't organize users into meshes like WASTE does; all connections are one to one so you can add someone to your personal buddy list without exposing the identities or files that others in your buddy list are sharing with you. No permission is required which means you have total control over your connection to your peers. WASTE by contrast builds webs of trust and forces individuals to consider other people because the actions of one individual can affect the whole group. This is not always a good thing, given the low level of rationality and maturity that many internet users demonstrate. I've seen groupthink split meshes apart and drive members away. WASTE just isn't for everybody, in fact it's not for most people. I've learned a lot about prejudice and fear from my experiences with WASTE. The software is more like a mad scientist's social experiment than a serious file sharing tool, but it does the job as advertised. In the future I'd prefer to use an encrypted file sharing tool that does not raise animosity and make people afraid of the outside world, and my search for a program with those features continues. Last edited by Mazer : 18-12-06 at 10:07 PM. |
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Just something to keep in mind.
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19-12-06, 06:13 AM | #6 | |
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19-12-06, 03:15 PM | #8 | ||
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if only it were true! imagine hopping into a multi-colored van and being greeted with "Dude! You gotta check out this new MESH!" Quote:
you've just described every private tracker i've ever visited lol. ditto btw soulseek and its own brand of ban-mad power-sharers. in the p2p community waste has no monopoly on social tension and uber-cliques, peculiar or otherwise. one need only gaze back at the turbulent genesis of this very forum to see that. but yes, as long as apathy, member differences or a determined troll can disrupt a community then waste groups, like any social organization will be vulnerable. on the other hand since no one can be forced to leave under any circumstances i’m always happily surprised to see meshes lasting as long as they do. - js. |
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18-12-06, 08:11 PM | #10 | |
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now if this new version had some sort of switch you could add to the shortcut where it could run with either the early or later client might be bonus |
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