Political Ideas To Ponder...

[Malk-a-mite]

Originally Posted by albed

For the good of the species you should let nature take its course and replace you with a healthier or harder working specimen.

The invisible hand at work? Oddly enough sometimes people fall on hard times and it has nothing to do with how good they are, also without some level of government interferance there is very little reason for business to not treat their employees like cattle.

Or do you think the 40 hour work week is a natural condition?

[Drakonix]

It's interesting......

All that talk and griping about problems with the vote and election fraud, up to and including election day.

But.......

After the Dems win, not a single word about concerns regarding the vote.

All the concern about the e-voting machines, "disenfranchised voters", etc. seems to have evaporated instantly. Where is all this "concern" now?

I guess all is fair and good, as long as the Dems win.

[JackSpratts]

it's there if you look. the fraud websites were hyper on election day. there may be instances where the dems would've picked up more seats or had wider margins on the seats they did get, possible even the reps lost some from fraud although i haven't seen that scenario so far, and really their anger is directed at bush atm, convinced that had he fired rummy a few months before the election their prospects would have been far less severe.

right now however the democratic leadership is involved in other matters, preparing to lead, deciding chair appointmnets etc but it'll all be gone over in post mortems for months to come.

i included a good interview on evoting in this week's wir. this isn't some invention of one party or another, it's a real, verifiable problem. here's the link.

i can tell you this drak: here in ct we've taken a 90 degree turn where electronic machines are concerned. nobody wants touch-screen voting, they all want to keep the old lever machines - but they're no longer manufactured and getting parts is problematic. we're reviewing everything, and that's with a republican govenor.

we will probably migrate to SAT test style paper voting that is scanned and counted electronically with the actual paper ballots kept for two years.

- js.

[theknife]

shamelessly clipped from TPM:

Was anyone besides me delighted to note that the last two Republican senators to concede were Burns and Allen?

Say goodnight, Gracie.

[Nicobie]

Almost too good to be true.

:big grin:

[multi]

WOW, He served George Burns a martini.

Give the man a CEEGAR !

[Drakonix]

i can tell you this drak: here in ct we've taken a 90 degree turn where electronic machines are concerned.

I hear ya. Same thing here in California. E-voting machines were not certified by the Secretary of State. As posted elsewhere, I think e-voting machines are not ready for prime time. I posted what the California ballot looked like. You indicated your vote by using a black or blue ballpoint pen to complete the middle of a broken arrow. When your ballot was marked then you fed your two ballot sheets into a big scanner box that retained the ballots.

Seems to be a fairly reliable, tamper proof, and safe system. Paper ballots and electronic tabulation with the scanner.

The scanner apparently does some error checking on the ballots, as a friend told me he accidentally voted yes and no on the same item and the machine rejected the ballot. He was given a new ballot to mark.

I'm somewhat disappointed there was no ID checking like they told us there would be. However, for many years the polling place had a list showing all voters with that polling location, and you have to sign the list where your name is listed and print your residence address.