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defacto · 09-08-06, 02:02 AM

need bootstraping?

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JackSpratts · 09-08-06, 12:12 PM

i can see you on the mesh. welcome back defacto!

- js.

JackSpratts · 15-08-06, 10:03 AM

OFF System Development

Have Nothing. Pwn Everything.

Brightnets vs. Darknets

The Owner-Free Filing system has often been described as the first brightnet; A distributed system where no one breaks the law, so no one need hide in the dark.

OFF is a highly connected peer-to-peer distributed file system. The unique feature of this system is that it stores all of its internal data in a multi-use randomized block format. In other words there is not a one to one mapping between a stored block and its use in a retrieved file. Each stored block is simultaneously used as a part of many different files. Individually, however, each block is nothing but arbitrary digital white noise.

Owner-Free refers both to the fact that nobody owns the system as a whole and nobody can own any of the data blocks stored in the system. The latter claim is explained below and supported in the linked works.

Owner-less Data

It seems highly unlikely to most people that the same exact data can be used to represent several things at once. But indeed, the same digital representation can be, “both a floor wax and a dessert topping.”

The misperception is simply a relic of computer metaphors that obfuscate an important reality of the digital world. Traditional rules do not apply. Mathematics is the only law.

Curiously, mathematics says:

1. There are an infinite numbers of ways to digitally represent any given work.
2. Every digital representation can be used to perceive as an infinite number of works.

The OFF System simply chooses one of the infinite ways that is non-copyrightable. There must be at least one, or else every possible digital representation would already be copyrighted. It just so happens that the same representation is already being used for other things.

A simple description of the process is available on this site. http://offsystem.sourceforge.net/wordpress/?page_id=4 A more extensive treatment is done in the paper, “On copyrightable numbers with an application to the Gesetzklageproblem” http://offsystem.info/CopyNumbCJ.pdf

Copyright

No creative works, copyrighted or not, are ever communicated between OFF peers. Only meaningless blocks of random data. No tangible copies of creative works are ever stored on OFF peers. It is completely unnecessary.

All retrieval of creative works is done exclusively on the users local machine. More importantly, no copies of a creative work ever NEED to be made. All works can be accessed in-place and on-demand by locally resident software in the same way that traditional file servers are used.

All storage of creative works is done exclusively on the users local machine. Uniquely, only a single virtual copy of the creative work is made directly into OFF virtual file system. That is all that is EVER needed. As with a traditional file server, that single copy is completely private. It is accessible only through the URL possessed by person who stored the work. Again this appears legally equivalent to making a single copy to your personal disk or server.

Should the person who stored the work want to allow access to others, he simply gives them the URL. The receiver can then access the work in-place without needing to make a copy. This is identical to the way that iTunes allows friends to play each others music via streaming without copying.

We call the OFF System a “Brightnet”. No secrecy is needed as nothing shady is going on.

———————

Footnote: This work builds on previous technology pioneered by David Madore in his paper, “Method of free speech on the Internet: random pads”
http://www.eleves.ens.fr:8080/home/m...reespeech.html
http://offsystem.sourceforge.net/wordpress/?page_id=13

Mazer · 15-08-06, 07:59 PM

That's sweet jack! Let's try it out.

JackSpratts · 16-08-06, 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mazer

That's sweet jack! Let's try it out.

sounds like a plan!

- js.

Mazer · 17-08-06, 01:57 PM

Eh, having reviewed the developers website I don't think an actual file sharing program has been implimented. So far what they've got is an implimentation that creates a local OFF cache. This could be used, for example, to create a file system that stores random blocks of data in place of copyright infringing files. You can insert blocks into that cache to "depreciate" files and retrieve blocks to reconstruct files, but the cache itself isn't yet distributable. Simply put, you can OFF a file and create a link to that file and share the link with other people, but since they don't have access to your cache the link will be useless.

I'd love to give this a try, and after I download their beta and try it out I'll see if we can't use it to share files, but in its current state it's not looking like a WASTE replacement. Though once they figure it out it could probably replace Freenet and revolutionize binary news groups in one fell swoop.

Dream Catcher · 23-12-06, 08:51 PM

Happy Holidays !!!!!!!

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09-08-06, 02:02 AM	#1
defacto Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 10	need bootstraping? added Hooah WASTE_PUBLIC_KEY 20 1536 Defacto C81354143B2F9B9F8B599814EBBF5D506ED1F6BA4C1E1ED34CB723CFB56A 0022842D978EF4B99F67B909292EEDF5555A5A7E6C2ECCDA4918700C51DA 7FBB02819EFCA6797A713D6777101EE5722921A874DC44FBD374701C6291 D106ED2987BACE8658C47A6DEDCB9BB3D1246A91B89CFFA476E158FA3645 AAC2E7DB6D1712B274DE78FF799E89268506BFC7012CB0ED48B24C80164C 8A5EFA6264649BCE8FA2B428BECF7C23BE37F77B8AC346D1058842C9691C 9719CC21CD103963EBE9F47F0003010001 WASTE_PUBLIC_KEY_END

09-08-06, 12:12 PM	#2
JackSpratts Join Date: May 2001 Location: New England Posts: 10,023	i can see you on the mesh. welcome back defacto! - js.

15-08-06, 10:03 AM	#3
JackSpratts Join Date: May 2001 Location: New England Posts: 10,023	OFF System Development Have Nothing. Pwn Everything. Brightnets vs. Darknets The Owner-Free Filing system has often been described as the first brightnet; A distributed system where no one breaks the law, so no one need hide in the dark. OFF is a highly connected peer-to-peer distributed file system. The unique feature of this system is that it stores all of its internal data in a multi-use randomized block format. In other words there is not a one to one mapping between a stored block and its use in a retrieved file. Each stored block is simultaneously used as a part of many different files. Individually, however, each block is nothing but arbitrary digital white noise. Owner-Free refers both to the fact that nobody owns the system as a whole and nobody can own any of the data blocks stored in the system. The latter claim is explained below and supported in the linked works. Owner-less Data It seems highly unlikely to most people that the same exact data can be used to represent several things at once. But indeed, the same digital representation can be, “both a floor wax and a dessert topping.” The misperception is simply a relic of computer metaphors that obfuscate an important reality of the digital world. Traditional rules do not apply. Mathematics is the only law. Curiously, mathematics says: 1. There are an infinite numbers of ways to digitally represent any given work. 2. Every digital representation can be used to perceive as an infinite number of works. The OFF System simply chooses one of the infinite ways that is non-copyrightable. There must be at least one, or else every possible digital representation would already be copyrighted. It just so happens that the same representation is already being used for other things. A simple description of the process is available on this site. http://offsystem.sourceforge.net/wordpress/?page_id=4 A more extensive treatment is done in the paper, “On copyrightable numbers with an application to the Gesetzklageproblem” http://offsystem.info/CopyNumbCJ.pdf Copyright No creative works, copyrighted or not, are ever communicated between OFF peers. Only meaningless blocks of random data. No tangible copies of creative works are ever stored on OFF peers. It is completely unnecessary. All retrieval of creative works is done exclusively on the users local machine. More importantly, no copies of a creative work ever NEED to be made. All works can be accessed in-place and on-demand by locally resident software in the same way that traditional file servers are used. All storage of creative works is done exclusively on the users local machine. Uniquely, only a single virtual copy of the creative work is made directly into OFF virtual file system. That is all that is EVER needed. As with a traditional file server, that single copy is completely private. It is accessible only through the URL possessed by person who stored the work. Again this appears legally equivalent to making a single copy to your personal disk or server. Should the person who stored the work want to allow access to others, he simply gives them the URL. The receiver can then access the work in-place without needing to make a copy. This is identical to the way that iTunes allows friends to play each others music via streaming without copying. We call the OFF System a “Brightnet”. No secrecy is needed as nothing shady is going on. ——————— Footnote: This work builds on previous technology pioneered by David Madore in his paper, “Method of free speech on the Internet: random pads” http://www.eleves.ens.fr:8080/home/m...reespeech.html http://offsystem.sourceforge.net/wordpress/?page_id=13

15-08-06, 07:59 PM	#4
Mazer Earthbound misfit Join Date: May 2001 Location: Moses Lake, Washington Posts: 2,563	That's sweet jack! Let's try it out.

17-08-06, 01:57 PM	#6
Mazer Earthbound misfit Join Date: May 2001 Location: Moses Lake, Washington Posts: 2,563	Eh, having reviewed the developers website I don't think an actual file sharing program has been implimented. So far what they've got is an implimentation that creates a local OFF cache. This could be used, for example, to create a file system that stores random blocks of data in place of copyright infringing files. You can insert blocks into that cache to "depreciate" files and retrieve blocks to reconstruct files, but the cache itself isn't yet distributable. Simply put, you can OFF a file and create a link to that file and share the link with other people, but since they don't have access to your cache the link will be useless. I'd love to give this a try, and after I download their beta and try it out I'll see if we can't use it to share files, but in its current state it's not looking like a WASTE replacement. Though once they figure it out it could probably replace Freenet and revolutionize binary news groups in one fell swoop.

23-12-06, 08:51 PM	#7
Dream Catcher Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 42	Happy Holidays !!!!!!!