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06-09-05, 10:02 AM | #1 |
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And What Have We Learned???...
There is a lot to be learnt from Hurricane Katrina, first and foremost is you better have enough supplies and plans ready for the next disaster whether natural or one due to terrorism because the Department of Homeland Security is slow and inept and if you rely on them you are sure to die...
The big elephant in the room is the National Guard. The National Guard is trained to handle disasters, if the National Guard and their equipment is overseas fighting in foreign wars; they can't help the very people they were trained to help. Some will say that they can bring in National Guard units from other states, which may be true, but people die in the time it takes to get those out of state units into the disaster area and they are unfamiliar with the region. Time is crucial in disaster relief and waiting for another state's National Guard is deadly; men, women, children and babies died in Louisiana and Mississippi because their National Guard is deployed in Afghanistan and Iraq. It is criminal to hijack a state's National Guard to use overseas and deny the residents of Louisiana and Mississippi the people that trained to rescue them in times of an emergency. Congress needs to pass a law making it illegal effective immediately to deploy state National Guard units outside of the United States or it's territories. If the regular army isn't big enough to fight its wars then enlarge it but don't be stealing the National Guard from it's own citizens. Katrina proved that not having first responders immediately available to keep law and order results in chaos. The National Guard is more important in a disaster than many people realize. When Hurricane Andrew hit South Florida the Homestead police were at each other’s throats in revolt. Many Homestead police left the force to be with their families in their time of need. Reports on television said that about 50% of the New Orleans police deserted after Katrina hit. When police flea, it leaves the remaining officers with an impossible task to keep order, only the National Guard can help and they have to be deployed immediately not days later... When will officials understand that when emergencies strike communications systems fail? Communications failed in 9/11 and television reports said communications failed after Katrina struck. Maybe it is time the Department of Homeland Security comes up with a communication system especially devised to work after a disaster, of course that could prove difficult because as we have all seen the Department of Homeland Security doesn't work after a disaster... After seeing the pathetic job the Department of Homeland Security has done following Hurricane Katrina in regards to keeping civil order, evacuating residents and caring for them, just imagine if you will the Department of Homeland Security after a terrorist detonates a nuclear bomb in a major U.S. city. It would probably be pretty much the same chaos experienced in New Orleans with the added pleasure of radiation poisoning causing all the people to lay in their own diarrhea while choking on their own vomit. The Department of Homeland Security knew Hurricane Katrina was on the way, they knew the levies could not take a major category 4 hurricane, they knew there would be massive flooding but yet they never had a plan to deal with the consequences. We now know how the Department of Homeland Security works when they know a disaster is on the way; one can only imagine how they would handle a disaster they didn't expect... About the only thing the Department of Homeland Security can do good is give a press conference. I've seen them they are very good. They are great at spinning words too. I thought the press conference/photo-op in the aircraft hangar of President Bush, FEMA head Michael Brown, Alabama Governor Riley and Mississippi Governor Barbour was so nicely done it looked like an old Dockers commercial. Nice to see the boys dropped the suits for some casual wear during the disaster... The Department of Homeland Security, Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff and his gopher Michael Brown did an unbelievably poor job and we have learned from past experiences that can only mean one thing, President Bush will give Chertoff and Brown medals just like he gave all the other people that bungled their government jobs... |
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What kind of moron are you? The DOHS is responsible for preventing and responding to terrorist attacks, not natural disasters.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea...0011008-2.html http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea...l#Mission-Mgmt Maybe you should try bitching about FEMA peabrain. http://www.fema.gov/about/history.shtm |
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aw, the little idiot took the bullet for the big idiot. isn't it cute?
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Come on Jack, the analogy was a sword not a bullet.
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On the 4TH anniversary of the 9/11 attacks we should look back and remember how we felt then, what actually happened and what has been accomplished since then. I was shocked and mad at the terrorists, oddly I am still shocked and mad just this time I am mad at the terrorists and at the response to them. I still remember President Bush standing at the rubble that was the World Trade Center, next to a fireman and yelling into a megaphone that he would get the people responsible. Four years later President Bush has still not got Osama bin Laden nor al-Qaida's second in command Ayman al-Zawahri, instead he sent American troops into Iraq, a move that has helped al-Qaida recruit more members and bogged down the American military in a dangerous guerrilla war. True we have not been attacked since but considering al-Qaida is known for meticulously planning for up to 5 years in advance of attacking, one should not draw the conclusion that since another attack hasn't happened yet that it won't or that the government is responsible for preventing an attack...
On the 4TH anniversary of the 9/11 attacks, plans are ready to rebuild the area with another big structure. My personal feeling is that it is wrong to rebuild on the land that held the World Trade Center. A lot of people died there; their bodies were never recovered. It was the largest attack on American civilians that I know of and the ground should be sacred. It should be turned into a park, so that the families of the dead have a place to reflect. It is a cemetery and cemeteries should not have skyscrapers built on them. If ever there was a use for eminent domain this is it; the government should buy the land and make it into a park... On the 4TH anniversary of the 9/11 attacks America now has the Department Of Homeland Security. A department created to counter a terrorist attack by putting several government agencies under one roof with one person making decisions. DHS was suppose to smooth operations by having competing agencies working together with one large budget. Hurricane Katrina proved the Department Of Homeland Security an utter failure. Monies that should have been used to shore up the New Orleans levies went elsewhere and FEMA, now under the Department Of Homeland Security was so slow to respond to the needs of the people that people died directly due to their negligence. If DHS is ineffective in reacting to something as regular as a hurricane, imagine how they would react to a nuclear or biological attack in a major city. Their decisions made before and after Hurricane Katrina should have you very concerned about the well being of your family in the event of another terrorist attack or even another natural disaster... The Department Of Homeland Security came out with a color code security system, seems kind of silly now doesn't it? They know how to warn you before an attack but based on their response after the Hurricane Katrina attack; they don't have a grip on what to do after an attack. There lies the problem, a bigger government, more bureaucracy and less qualified people running it. On the 4TH anniversary of the 9/11 attacks the same government people are saying the same things and less is getting done. It is business as usual... |
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I think the Katrina relief debacle is a classic problem > reaction > soultion for more powers to the government to help the poor and stupid sheep.
H.S. and Fema: If we only had more power. Military: If we only had the authority to act. I think that the Local and State govt should have all of the power and the federal help should be there to assist and not direct. |
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In this case, where there is failure at multiple points, you have people fighting over power, trying to show who the biggest failure was. The feds will win handily, they have been grabbing more and more power from the states for decades, while giving up not an inch. |
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11-10-05, 01:13 PM | #16 |
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In addition to food, water, etc. buy a lot of guns and ammo.
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