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31-10-04, 05:27 AM | #1 | |
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"Why would Bush want to do that"? And you don't know? You have not been paying attention in class again have you? Go straight to Vegas and do collect £200.
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31-10-04, 05:43 PM | #2 |
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Come on malva, not even the vilest black-hearted politician considers the murder of 3,000+ Americans a good thing. Some will use such a tragedy to their advantage, but if I believed for one second that a public leader was capable of such evil then I'd leave the U.S. and never look back.
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31-10-04, 07:13 PM | #3 |
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i do believe it's possible, but is there somewhere to go when you leave!?
politicians and religious leaders take the 'evil' cake....the world over.....above drug dealers IMHO i can't imagine spending that many hours a day doing what they do screw dat black boxes!? there's a lot of shit i'd rather not know, lest my fears be confirmed
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31-10-04, 08:21 PM | #4 | |
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How many other gov's have commited much worse atrocities, genecide, to further their political causes? |
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01-11-04, 12:45 AM | #5 | |
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right right....i played Hammurabi on a cassette loaded Tandy over twenty years ago...the point was to determine what percentage of the people defend, how many grow food, etc. ....IF you starved too many by keeping soldiers to work the feilds OR sent too many to death in war...they beheaded you!! 3000 was not a lot of people back then and is even less now for those that rule at a tender age, i realized i did not want to be a "ruler" of anyone "Vote for NORM!" ...NOT
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01-11-04, 01:24 AM | #6 | |
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it will look strange over the history of blackbox recordings that these flights are the only aircraft crashes that the boxes have been unable to be retrived.. i dare say no black box for the pentagon or Flight 93 either? |
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01-11-04, 03:56 AM | #7 | |
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I keep coming across things. There are so many unanswered questions. Why are they not being asked? A lot of this stuff is public record Please don't say governments don't do this sort of thing. They do. Look it up yourself. There is lots of facts,about what the US has done to destabilise countries. Please have a read of some of this stuff. Keep an open mind. Then decide. Like you I don't want to believe it. I just don't know. http://www.cosmicpenguin.com/911/Eastman/m18h05.html http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fiveisraelis.html http://911research.wtc7.net/contents.html http://infowars.com/index.html
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If the American Government knew or planned 9/11 it would have to been done under the Clinton Admin's watch and not Bush's. The Terrorist were trained with the Democrats in Power. You know the 8 years before Bush took power. Guess them Dems thought Al Gore was going to win the election. Boy they really fucked up didn't they. I still believe 9/11 was a Mossad Operation. Which country gained the most from 9/11. It sure was not the USA.
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01-11-04, 02:05 PM | #9 | |
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Another one not paying attention in class
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http://infowars.com/index.html I really don't know what to believe.
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01-11-04, 06:56 PM | #11 |
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I guess we'll see who it backfired on tomorrow.
Looking back on the last half of the 20th century you have to wonder if Republicans ever had any more influence than they've had the past two years. Congress was in the tight grip of the Democrats for four decades, and despite the presence of a few Republicans in the Oval Office every once in a while, the government was still a dynasty of Democrats. In that time the cold war gave way to the war on terrorism and thus it was when the Republicans finially took the reigns of power. Now the Republicans are despairate to maintain power and the Democrats are even more despairate to regain it. Osama Bin Laden may be the indirect product of American power struggles but no public servant will admit they supported him, nor will any politican accuse any other of doing so (the political backlash of either statement would end careers). They're certainly capable of killing civilians for their own reasons, and I've heard stories too. But if politicians really wanted to kill for profit 1) they wouldn't kill 3,000 people and 2) they wouldn't hire foreign nationals to do it for them. When the President wants to down an airline jet with 300 passengers to kill just one drug lord he uses an American missile to do it. That is considered acceptible risk because 1) it doesn't leave thousands of families and their congressional representatives asking a lot of questions and 2) it's under his direct control. I suspect that had the 9/11 attack been in any way sponsored by the government, or even just a small part of it, then credible information would have been leaked by now, if not by a government insider then by a foreigner who was involved. Any credible reports of government involvement would have been reported in the news, given the volatility of the current political environment. Accusations would fly back and forth, and people would be trying to build their reputations on damning those involved. Eventually someone would be tried for treason. But none of these things have happened. It's been three years, and if the attack involved anyone besides the Al Qaeda terrorists then it would only be a matter of time before eveyone knew about it. If I sound like a hardliner in support of the current administration then that just means the President's opponents have gone to such extreme measures to demonize him that common sense looks like a polar extreme. My support for Bush isn't that strong, I just consider him the lesser of two evils. I cannot let fear of a possible but highly unlikely plot against the public rule my mind. I'm sure such a design does exist somewhere, there is a conspiracy, but it's well hidden and ineffectual as far as I can see. I'm not scared. I do believe in America, the Consititution that governs it, and the people who live and work to make this nation great. Such a system would be dificult to undermine, though there are some who may try. However those of us who vote and participate know that the government is what we make of it, and if more people knew that then we wouldn't have to worry about politicians undermining our security. That's what makes this and future elections so important. It doesn't matter who has the power as long as it's the voice of the people who grant that power, and that's where I'm putting my faith. |
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Well argued.
Well argued Mazer,but,
If you read some of the stuff you would see that there is evidence. You have fireman talking about explosions in the towers. Engineers talking about how fire does not bring down buildings. Lots and lots of unanswered questions. The Pentagon strike is even more absurd,because they have video and will not release it. I don't want to believe it either. I am not involved in politics at all. Certainly not American politics being from the UK. I see Kerry as a man who doesn't know his ass from his elbow. Bush,well you know what your getting. I have said it before,is this the best you can come up with? The problem with all these theory's is that some are without doubt,a load of bollocks. This Alex seems to me to on to something a little different. Most of what he says is on the record. Check it out yourself. It's his conclusions that scare. If what he says is going on,is going on. We're all in the shit. The UK as well. The only saving grace is that our government couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery. If they could I'd be right there supporting them. (The piss up bit)
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black boxes are made to be indestructable but luckily attas passport just happened to float safely down so we know who did it.
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02-11-04, 07:43 PM | #14 | |
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And no, USA didn't gain squat from it except the PATRIOT ACT and the doom day's bill and a possible army draft... Maybe it was in conjunction with the Mossad, It was recorded officially that 5 jewish persons were arrested because some ppl in the Sears building saw them dancing and rejoycing while talking pictures of the crumbling twin towers (WTF but true). Those 5 were arrested but released some 60 days later, maybe before, because they were confirmed Mossad agents. As for being planned under Clinton or Bush, who knows Recently rewatched Alex's Jones Police State 2000, The first one made about police state. Even tho I hate to admit it, Clinton did install the systimatic random, road search block. So who knows when the truth will come up. We are still waiting to hear from the official report on what killed JFK, been reclassified again, will not know for another 30? years? Talked with my mom on sunday... She asked me, did you watch the news about the new Osama Bin Ladden recorded message? I replied of course I did, then she replied "I cannot believe it was an authentic recording, it's way too much convinient for the time it was released" aka few days before the big elections. She also said that she truly believed that it was a fake recording. Will not mentionned what she said next. I personnally believe that Bush and almost it's whole adm knew what was going to happen on 9/11 and covered it up. What better way to invade some middle east countries that Bush Daddy could not do under it's presidency. I'm also boggleld as to why, we never saw much of Bush wife... maybe they were afraid that she might pass for smarter than her pathetic houseband Strangely enough, I can remember the 3 previous first lady's name except for Bush wife. Hope Bush will not win tonight! Light a candle for freedom Even tho Kerry is from Skulls & Bones as Dubya is |
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02-11-04, 09:43 PM | #16 | |
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Ok, that's make 4 But still can't remember Bush's wife name without making an internet search. Prolly have to do with Bush politics about ''Old america Values'' where good christians wives stay at home to raise childrens while the man of the family brings home the bacon$$$ Wich is an unrelistic views in our day and age since it now takes 2 incom to be able to pay an appt/house while raising 2 & 1/2 kids. The main reason I believe as to why we don't or almost never see Bush's wife. |
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