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![]() from cnn:
"Two-thirds of Internet users who download music don't care whether they're violating copyright laws, according to a new survey that highlights the uphill enforcement battle facing the recording industry." http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/interne....ap/index.html i don't see how surveying only 2,515 people is even close to measuring the concern of over 25 million people, meh 90% of studies are completly pointless or misrepresenting. |
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the selling of democracy. - js. |
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http://www.robertniles.com/stats/sample.shtml |
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![]() thank you for clearing up my ignorance in the matter.
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![]() Aha! Straight from the horse's mouth:
http://www.house.gov/rules/98-228.htm http://www.ddal.org/howbill.html A voice vote isn't even COUNTED. A member must call for counting to happen. For votes to be recorded (and I guess attributed to a specific member) more formalities take place. I guess no one bothered for DMCA... I wonder how the Texas folks will vote on this one... http://thefacts.com/story.lasso?wcd=9070 |
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yeah, sample polling works great... just look at the last presidential election :-/ the media uses sample polling to push their own agendas, it has nothing to do with what percentages of people's actual opinions. just my opinion of course, but from using a stat based sample, i feel my opinion is agreed with by at least two thirds of all americans (with a 6% margin of error, of course) ![]()
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![]() The formula used to calculate the margin of error is on the page I linked to, 1/sqroot(sample size). The size of your population has nothing to do with this. I'm not a statistician, so I'll just defer to the 'here's a bunch of math, trust me, it works' method.
On the TV polls you will see an error margin of 3-5%, and the sample size is usually shown as around 1000, which works out according to the formula. There will always be uncertainty unless you're polling the entire population. But there are bigger fish to fry: - how is the sample selected - what/how question is asked - how are the results aggregated (if multiple questions) and interpreted In election polls a change poll-to-poll of 1%, when your error margin is 5%, is meaningless. Similarly, if the answers are within margin of error points of each other, it's a toss up. Example poll with a 4% error margin: Quote:
As a side note, if only 30% of the eligible population votes, is that an election or a poll? Last edited by pod : 06-08-03 at 03:07 PM. |
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![]() I took a statistics class last year - suffice it to say there are numerous ways to mislead, falsify, tweak, etc. in polls. The best way to understand polls is to know as much background on polls in general, and on whatever poll you are looking at, as possible.
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