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19-06-05, 01:07 PM | #1 | ||||
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A Generational Committment To Iraq
Condi Rice, on Fox News this morning:
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19-06-05, 02:40 PM | #2 |
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Iraq has some pretty good oil fields, the people are educated, and there's lots of motivation. I still think they'll show signs of becomming self sufficient in a year or two. I dont' think you can actually measure how long a generation is, it's a group of people rather than a span of time. You may have noticed that the 'political pendulum' swings back and forth with the comming and going of each generation, and right now it's swinging toward the conservative side. It probably wasn't just this administration that chose to liberate Iraq as much as this whole generation. And when the pendulum swings again this nation will turn it's back on Iraq and leave them to their own devices. Hopefully before that happens they mature enough to be left alone.
Maybe the message to liberals here is that your turn is comming, but first the rest of us have important work to do, so be patient and don't try to stop us. Help out if you want, give constructive criticism, keep those in power from losing sight of the goal of Iraqi soverignty, adapt to these changes, and most of all keep a positive attitude. You can't stop the tide, but you can ride it, that's what we're doing, and you would do no less if the tide favored you. In the mean time make some improvements to your party's orgainzation to keep wackos like Howard Dean from making it impossible for you to lead responsibly in the future. |
19-06-05, 04:39 PM | #3 |
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SSSHHHHHHHHH Whose side are you on Mazer?
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"showing signs of becoming self-sufficient in a year or two" is not a good reason for young Americans to keep dying - i would suggest if you feel otherwise, you should down and see your local army recruiter because they desperately need young believers like yourself. but before you put your life in the hands of the leaders who brought us this train wreck, you might want to check out a more realistic assessment of the situation from top Senate Republican Chuck Hagel: Quote:
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19-06-05, 08:56 PM | #5 | |
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Selective definition is a poor defense of your position. Here's the entire entry from the link you gave:
If you're so worried about the plight of this generation then you should run a "Don't Drink and Drive/Buckle Up for Safety" campaign, you'll save more lives that way. If I joined the military and went to Iraq I'd be more likely to be sued by the RIAA for filesharing than to be killed. Quote:
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20-06-05, 09:34 AM | #6 | |
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and, like so many others, your enthusiasm for the mission in Iraq exists only to the extent that people other than yourself actually carry it out. we can only hope, for their sake, that Secretary Rice is wrong. |
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20-06-05, 05:37 PM | #7 |
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Please don't question my reasons for supporting this war, or my reasons for staying home, because it's beneath you. I don't doubt that you support those troops every bit as much as I do, and I agree that they need to come home as soon as possible. But I am certain those soldiers understand the terms of their commitment, and whether or not they really want to be there they'll fulfill those terms. By now there are many soldiers there who signed up after the war started and they knew full well what they were getting themselves into. That a generation is willing to make such a commiment demonstrates the merit many young volunteers see in this struggle. It was their decisions as free citizens to enlist during wartime, and for that their loyalty is not to be questioned.
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