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09-12-04, 02:24 AM | #1 |
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Police State ID Card Bill Passes Without Congress Even Reading It
3,000 page bill passage mirrors first Patriot Act sneak-through
At approximately 3:30pm today, Ron Paul's press secretary Jeff Deist called Alex Jones to warn him that the legislation that encompasses the national ID card and Patriot Act 2 provisions was on the verge of passing the House tonight. Deist stated that the bill and what it means for America could be described in a word as 'tyranny'. Deist's tone was the most concerned that Alex had ever known in his years of communication with Ron Paul's office. Alex made it clear how upset Desit was and that the situation reminded him of a 'war room atmosphere'. Deist and Ron Paul are desperate to mobilize the alternative media before the bill reaches the Senate tomorrow. Its ok if you are a law abiding citizen. Let me see you papers please, come with me, your papers seem to be out of order. |
09-12-04, 02:34 AM | #2 |
BANG BANG BANG (repeat as necessary)
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Great. If you're doing it, Blunkett's sure to follow suit.
Gah... what's so wrong with anonymity?
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its an old iea over here..they wanted it back in '87
according to this similar plans in the UK are well under way... Quote:
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09-12-04, 08:22 AM | #4 |
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Blunkett's been planning and mentioning this on numerous occaions. The issue usually gets raised in response to either an event of terrorism.
I guess we'll have to hope that the boogeymen have the common courtesy to apply for one.
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09-12-04, 06:18 PM | #5 |
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As U might guess, I follow this kind of shit fairly close.
It's news to me. If true..... It's time to revolt. Fire every big govm'nt worker, then go to local rule.
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09-12-04, 07:08 PM | #6 |
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vote republican for: more spending, more laws, more tyranny, more government, less freedom.
it's just an amazing thing to watch. - js. |
22-12-04, 01:28 AM | #7 |
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It Can't Happen Here
http://www.house.gov/paul/tst/tst2004/tst122004.htm
In 2002 I asked my House colleagues a rhetorical question with regard to the onslaught of government growth in the post-September 11th era: Is America becoming a police state? The question is no longer rhetorical. We are not yet living in a total police state, but it is fast approaching. The seeds of future tyranny have been sown, and many of our basic protections against government have been undermined. The atmosphere since 2001 has permitted Congress to create whole new departments and agencies that purport to make us safer- always at the expense of our liberty. But security and liberty go hand-in-hand. Members of Congress, like too many Americans, don’t understand that a society with no constraints on its government cannot be secure. History proves that societies crumble when their governments become more powerful than the people and private institutions. Unfortunately, the new intelligence bill passed by Congress two weeks ago moves us closer to an encroaching police state by imposing the precursor to a full-fledged national ID card. Within two years, every American will need a “conforming” ID to deal with any federal agency-- including TSA at the airport. Wake Up Amerika!!! This is an elected official talking!! Most Germans thought that everything was OK in 1933. Just as most Americans think everything will be ok now. They elected Hitler too. |
22-12-04, 09:23 AM | #8 |
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"wake up"? lol, americans love this sh*t. everyone does. all over the world. tell 'em it's for they're own good and they eat it up. guns kill 30,000 a year, cars 45,000, hospital mistakes kill 100,000, booze i don’t know how many and cigs kill some 400,000 a YEAR but seriously, what good is liberty if every 10 years a few thousand die in an attack? it's good for nothin! nothing at all they'll tell ya. they want police states and they can't get ‘em fast enough.
nope, you want to fight this trend you'll have to fight your politicos naturally but you'll really have to fight your neighbors - and fight them hardest of all. good luck with that one. - js. |
22-12-04, 09:44 AM | #9 |
flippin 'em off
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But it's too terrifying to fight. Too vague and terrifying and scary and vague because people can only describe it by calling it something vague and terrifying and you get the impression they don't have a clue what they want people to be afraid of.
But what it really is is change. They just have to stop change because it's so scary to them and they have to make other people afraid to get the help they need to stop things from changing. So scare other people to stop the scary changes. You forgot to use the term 'slippery slope' though, I thought that was de rigueur. |
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