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01-12-05, 11:11 AM | #1 | |
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Council on Foreign Relations = The NWOrth American Country
So to fix our border problem with mexico, we will just get rid of the border and form one big happy country with them and Canada.
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GATT NAFTA and CAFTA were not good enough
now we have the SPP and the United States of North America Quote:
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the NAFTA free trade agreements practically forced them here http://www.foodfirst.org/pubs/backgr...sp04v10n2.html Quote:
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05-05-06, 05:36 PM | #3 |
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Color me ignorant, but the pros and cons of this kind of future aren't obvious to me. This issue seems to be a subset of the Nationalism versus Globalism debate which is itself fairly complicated. Would anybody care to explain this to me? Is voluntarily merging the three North American nations into one nation a good thing or a bad thing?
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07-05-06, 08:28 AM | #4 |
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No takers? Damn, this issue looked interesting but I guess I was the only one who thought so.
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07-05-06, 11:52 AM | #5 | |
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The last province to join the Canadian government was Newfoundland in 1949 and they did so because Canada decided to give them more land (a chunk of my province no less). Each provinces are a seperate entety and each province takes care of their own health system. The only thing I see useful about the Canadian Central gov is Mail services, unemployment insurances after loosing one's job and the Army. Beyond that, the Central gov laugh at us, see the sponsorship scandals... |
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12-05-06, 02:09 PM | #6 | |
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LOL!!! Seems you know less about Canadian politics as you do American politics. Wow, very scary. Oh yes the great and powerful PQ government is the reason the budget passed for the good of Canadians. LoL. Nobody outside Quebec gives a shit about the PQ party, Harper’s government is trying to give a little more to Quebec to hopefully stop the consistent whining coming out of that province. So you think the Liberals want another election right now? You do know they don’t even have a leader right now -- right? Why would a party with no leader want an election? Now to the NDP, why on earth would they want another election? They lost seats a few months ago so why would they think they could win more now? But you kno, I am not in Quebec so maybe that is the BS the west is telling the whiners there, That the PQ is the survivor for Canada…..hahahaha!!!!! ohhhhh, that’s a good one, you made my day……
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since you put it this way...
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PQ = Parti Québécois, it's provincial, not federal. It has nothing to do with supporting Harper's federal budget. The Bloc Québécois on the other hand is the one who approved Harper's fed budget, if it wasn't for them, it wouldn't have passed since the libreals and the NPD are against it, in your wisdom, tell me what would have happened if the Bloc didn't approved Harper's new federal spending? Remember Joe Clark? I do and I don't see why the same thing would happen if the Bloc didn't support Harper on his new budget. Here's something to refresh your memory Quote:
Now tell me, if the Bloc didn't support Harper, the same thing would have happened, it did once, what would have been different this time around? Keep laughing all you want but if it wasn't for the Bloc, your golden boy would be in hot water. Trust me that the liberals would have had a speedy election as to who would be the next leader if another vote of no confidence would happen, Stephane Dion comes in mind, afterall, the libs have an exemplary track record of choosing french canadians to be their new leader (beside the exception of Paul Martin). Oh, and keep calling us Whiners, afterall, it was the libs that decided to spend MILLIONS of dollars to promote Canada friendship and unity to the Quebec residents, for what ever good it did, beside depriving hard working citizen like you of their tax dollars Now i'm laughing Dude, you really need to brush up on your politics to have forgotten such a big thing. It happened once, would have happened again if it wasn't from... Keep up with the ostridge attitude, it suits you well. Now i'm really laughing Oh and remember that the PQ is only provincial and can only ask for more money from the central government while the Bloc can and is affecting federal politics these days. |
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Oh forgot to add, stand strong Caledonia, don't give the gov an inch of your land!!! |
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19-05-06, 09:01 PM | #9 |
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the vist by our PM looked pretty laughable
good to see some of your local unions there to heckle him |
26-05-06, 11:37 PM | #10 |
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Idea - Tell Mexico we will eliminate the border if they also eliminate their southern border with central america.
Result - Never will happen because their immigration policy is draconian. Talk about the ultimate Hypocrisy...... Albed's boy loves tequila too much! |
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if you would like your standard of living to decline its a good thing. it would also consolidate the power of the corporations Shipping-Corridor Deal Cuts Heart Out of Heartland Quote:
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I just don't see where our neighbors, especially Quebec, will be interested in such a thing. Europe seems content to let the EU dictate trade policy and commerce to them, but North America is nothing like Europe. We have more natural resources, more than twice the land area, a larger percentage of undeveloped land, two thirds of the population, and a much shorter history. These are the adolescent years of America, and I don't see us giving up our national identites altogether. We won't reach the same critical mass that Europe has for an other century. And though a few cities on our continent are scurrying to globalize themselves, the heartland is maintaining the status quo. The proposed shipping corridor might give the heartland a violent push into the modern world, but I would expect the people to push back just as hard, as is their right as Americans. Let the corporations be damned, they're going to have to wait a while for us to be despairate enough to merge North America into one nation.
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25-08-06, 11:19 AM | #15 |
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I'm sorry floyd, but North America is still three separate nations. Perhaps our economic borders are breaking down, but our governments are not. We don't vote in their elections and they don't vote in ours. And if 95% percent of North Americans see it that way, that's not widespread delusion, it's consensus. So both in principle and in practice are we three separate nations.
Don't put too much emphasis on the economics of the situation. Capitalism is a form of commerce, not a form of government, and we are not ruled by it. And to prove it, any time the government wants to it can impose tariffs on the goods transported from our neighbors. In a roundabout way this 'corridor' is being established with the consent of the people. Maybe you don't like it, but you can protest it and raise awareness of it and perhaps motivate a majority of voters to oppose it. By doing so you will be proving that they (and who exactly is they by the way?) still need our consent to make any kind of change to our national identity. Anyway, besides this NWO conspiracy, why not establish ports in the midwest? Isn't that where a lot of trading posts and forts were built in the 19th century? |
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