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22-02-06, 01:09 PM | #1 |
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Iraq: On The Brink Of Civil War?
Sectarian tensions in Iraq took a turn for the worse on 22 February when armed men detonated explosives inside the Golden Mosque in Samarra, home to a revered Shi'ite shrine, blowing the roof off the building. Iraqi leaders have scrambled to contain the ensuing retaliatory attacks by Shi'a, amid rising fears that the country could be on the brink of civil war. At least six Sunnis have been killed already in retaliatory attacks, and nearly 30 Sunni mosques attacked.
Two of the 12 Shi'ite imams -- Imam Ali al-Hadi, who died in 868 A.D., and his son, Imam Hasan al-Askari, who died in 874 A.D. -- are buried at the mosque. The complex also contains the shrine of the 12th imam, al-Mahdi, who is said to have gone into hiding through a cellar in the complex in 878, and is expected to return on Judgment Day. Both the Ansar Al-Sunnah Army and the Mujahedin Shura Council -- an alliance of terrorist groups that includes Abu Mus'ab al-Zarqawi's Al-Qaeda-affiliated group (see RFE/RL Iraq Report," 27 January 2006) -- are suspected in the attack. Both groups have insurgents operating in Samarra, and have claimed responsibility for attacks against U.S. and Iraqi forces there in recent weeks. Just like the assassination of revered Shi'ite Ayatollah Muhammad Baqir al-Hakim in Al-Najaf in 2003, no group has claimed responsibility for the Samarra attack. The Shi'ite Response Shi'ite Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani immediately called for seven days of mourning following the attack, and urged Shi'a to take to the streets in peaceful demonstrations protesting the attack. The cleric, who rarely appears in public, could be seen on Iraqi state television in a meeting with other leading ayatollahs. The mass demonstrations -- tens of thousands took to the streets of Baghdad, Al-Najaf, Kut, Al-Kufah, and Samarra -- were accompanied by violence. Reprisal attacks against Sunnis were reported across the country. more.. |
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Makes you wonder if someone actually wants a Civil War?
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22-02-06, 04:30 PM | #3 |
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wasn't the brink about a year and a half ago?
memo to the Bush administration: the US-Iraq War is over - Iran won. |
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In short for christians it would mean blowing up the dome of the Vatican Fucking big issue, how come it's keeps being minimised like that? |
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24-02-06, 02:05 AM | #8 |
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the one that just blew was the most scared shia mosque
the dome of the rock (the gold dome in jerusalem) is the 3rd most sacred for all of islam, the first two being in mecca and medina. (i think) but it is built on the wreckage of the 1st and 2nd temples(judiasm). they say the third one must be rebuilt to usher in the end of days. |
24-02-06, 11:58 AM | #9 |
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Iraq..civil war..Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!
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24-02-06, 04:53 PM | #10 | |
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William F. Buckley gets a clue...
the godfather of modern conservativism finally figures out what some of us knew four years ago:
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24-02-06, 06:47 PM | #11 |
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I don't know what's more retarded, that the president of Iran called us Zionist, or that Buckley actually quoted him to support his argument.
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24-02-06, 10:09 PM | #12 |
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rightie heros die hard
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25-02-06, 12:42 AM | #14 |
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Because any time Mahmoud Ahmadinejad talks about Zionists what he means is Jews, specifically Israelis. Among the many reasons cited by the Bush administration for invading Iraq, establishing a Jewish Zion was never one of them and we all know that. Since he got elected last year Ahmadinejad has said some deeply stupid things and if I wanted to make a point he would be the last person I'd quote.
Before today I've never read anything Buckley wrote, but it's obvious from his words that Democrats aren't the only people prone to defeatism. That doesn't surprise me when I consider our society's obsession with bad news. |
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meanwhile, the neocon dream in Iraq is dead, but i see you're still nursing that Iraqi liberation/democracy fantasy. nevertheless, it's not surprising to see more and more righties jump overboard and swim away from the ship. are they defeatist or just realistic? there is a general weariness on the right - 5 years of defending this president and his dreamy foreign policy has taken it's toll. the undercurrent is that it's long past time to put some grown-ups back in charge of the country. |
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25-02-06, 10:29 AM | #16 |
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I'll readily accept that defintion of Zionism, but my point was that Ahmadinejad sees things differently. The man says things that make even Palestinians cringe.
And to be clear, I never saw things the way the neocons did. They thought the war in Iraq was some kind of geopolitical strategy to decrease oil prices, globalize the reigion, and eventually infiltrate Iraq and its neighbors with American style capitalism. Now that they're begining to realize their presumptions were wrong from the start they want to bury thier heads in the sand and pretend none of this ever happened. So why doesn't Bush start backpedaling like the other neocons? The answer is because he isn't a neocon and he never was. And I can just see the increduous look on your face now but it's true. What we're witnessing in Iraq are the growing pains of a burgeoning democracy. The fact that Iraq didn't automatically revert to civil war after this bombing and the violence that insued demonstrates an incredible level of self restraint and their resolve to remain civilized. I know that those of you who thought failure was a foregone conclusion from the start will never believe it until you see it. Well my friends I'm afraid you're going to have to wait a few decades, and by then I might not be around to say I told you so, not that I would. There are some in Iraq who are ungreatful for this war just as there are in the United States, but they're diehard conservatives and that ain't a bad thing. Iraq will need those people to preserve Iraq's heritage and national identity in the years to come. The forces of globalization will come down upon Iraq and they must resist the temptation to become more like us, so when I read about Iraqis resisting I'm actually glad, so long as they resist peacfully. We haven't won over their hearts and minds, we never needed to; they'll eventually come to understand that they can govern themselves and still be themselves. Last edited by Mazer : 25-02-06 at 11:13 AM. Reason: Spelling |
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and here's some red meat for the house troll:
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25-02-06, 09:01 PM | #19 |
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So why don't you provide quotes where he was right instead of that pile of crap there with all the "I certainly hope" statements.
I do remember the - "...And then we're going to Washington, D.C. to take back the White House, Yeeeeeaaaaaargh!" - that didn't turn out to be so right. But really you should be rubbing your 'Dean was right' schtick into the faces of the democrats who decided against running him for the presidency and chose pro-war candidates instead. |
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