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Old 03-01-07, 07:10 PM   #55
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Originally Posted by Drakonix View Post
Well....
"lofty intentions", "noble cause", "stirring slogans", and a heavy dose of killing made the United States a country.

The deaths of many thousands gave and maintain the freedom of speech and other rights you have. Some still believe the sacrifices of our forefathers meant something and appreciate what they died to accomplish.

What is happening in Iraq right now is a good example of how hard freedom is to gain and how easy it is to lose.
apples and oranges, drak - what's happening in Iraq is not even remotely comparable to the American experience. the iraqis didn't askfor this situation - they had it imposed upon them by an occupying army that the vast majority of them wish would leave. our forefathers weren't locked into tribal warfare with each other - they were smart to know they would have to put their national ambitions above local loyalties in order to build a country. the iraqis are not willing to do that - there is nothing we can do for them until they are ready to do so.
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