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Old 17-10-03, 06:27 AM   #2
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Well…In the case of Peer-to-Peer the “VCR” is free and profit is zero. Even the networks P2P users are migrating to are ad-free, have no real income streams or any hope of seeing them and the groups themselves are run by volunteers. But that dances around a fundamental point. In America we don’t tax industries (people actually) because other industries play parts in purchase decisions. When I buy Michelin tires the company doesn’t send a check to Oldsmobile because that’s where the tires wind up. I pick up furniture that works well in my 100 year old house but that doesn’t mean the carpenter's descendents get a piece of the profits. He got his money when he built it. We all do work that benefits someone but to tax all of us for that reason alone smacks of communism and is demonstrably unworkable - while to tax us simply for the benefit of a few is unfair. He’s right that things have changed since the Betamax case but there's some snow in the video obscuring his picture. P2P changes things so thoroughly that in time the funds media companies may stand to lose - or gain - might come to be seen as one of the least important effects of file sharing.
thats well put..

heaps of people are still using their VCRs..and even renting VCR tapes
one of my favorite hobbies in the 80's was hooking 2 VCR's together and copy cult movies from the video stores...when i watched them..
and later on in the 90's had a VCR that would do insert edit, and made hours of cut up video(eg. an edit every few seconds ) that would go with just about any music..
(not really an original idea but anyway would drive u a little mad if u watch it too much .)but used to be ok for the music i was making with drum machines and samplers at the time..

a little beside the point but..cutting up images and sounds of maybe 100 or a 1000 different artists work spanning a centuary and mashing them all together to form something else...will never be considered a viable peice of art for some reason..but litttle by little i see the rich and wealthy artists getting away with this sort of thing in ther advert...i mean video clips

but if some new noname artist tries of corse they get sued by all these copyright sharks..

people like disney got their start by using this sort of "aquired material" idea..
the letterists of the 50's and the dada of course..and the italian futurists from the early 1900's...all using aspects of this and various fringe elements over the years inspired me i guess.. stuff like throbbing gristle and early cabaret voltaire
blah blah ...sorry
i guess your post lead me into thinking about this..

i guess.. my point is people have been mixing and matching all sorts of copyrighted material for their own entertainment for a long time now...

once apon a time multi media to me ment
working with mixed media...
now multi media means all the graphics stuff i have on my computer..
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