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Old 07-04-04, 02:40 PM   #17
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Originally posted by JackSpratts
you don’t trot into a hostile country, with your lessons about democracy, and then proceed to shut down their presses when they print something you don’t like.

I don't think anyone is trot-ing, and I also think that newspaper printed a lot of things the US did not like and it was not the reason it was shut down. It was shut down because of fasle stories with the soul purpose of getting Iraqi's enraged at Americans which was causing both Iraqi's and Americans their lives.




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it’s just going to convince the occupied that you’re not to be trusted, that your “system” ‘s not to be trusted. especially a country where they’re predisposed to believing your're untrustworthy to begin with. you know, it’s obviously not a moral issue that bush has with lies. he’s got an army with a propaganda machine whose job it is to disseminate real whoppers. hell when fox news lies they don’t complain because the lie favors the republicans. it’s not lies that shut down the paper, let’s get that clear, it’s the fact that the army didn’t like what they said.



Yeah it is obvious, please quote with a link some of the false stories Fox is telling.

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even taking them at face value, even ass - u – ming they’re bothered by the basic injustice of lying (!), you don’t combat lies with more lies, you don’t combat darkness with more darkness - instead you let all of these iraqi’s who’re “ecstatic” that the us has liberated them (and we know there are millions of them and we know they’re ecstatic because bush says so), you let them combat the lies with newspapers of their own that print the truth. that's how it's done. just like a real democracy. because doing anything less is bs, it gives ammo to your critics, and that ammo kills. it ain’t pen letters that are knocking off american mercenaries and soldiers every day.

- js.

I don't know what lies you are talking about? The Americans are spreading false stories to the Iraqi's? So you wake up in the morning, buy the NY Times and the NY Post, each tells very different stories, one says the police beat the man in self-defense, the other says the police attacked the man because he was black. It is your job to now decide what story is true? If you are black what story you going to believe? The truth is now out of the equation. Real Democracy? or Mob Rule? Where has that ever worked in Government? Never has, Greece tryed it and it cost Socrates his life, it does not work. A Republic works. Ever hear the saying the pen is mighty then the sword? What you think that means?
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