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daddydirt · 06-10-03, 02:13 AM

anybody else been following this??

(.)(.)(.)(.)(.) on the fuken f0rum drama-meter

the following classic post is courtesy of ESV forum mod SharePro

QUOTE (SharePro Posted: Oct 5 2003 @ 10:12 AM)
I didnt get Random Nuts name from ES5. No where on this board or anywhere does ES5 ask you your name. So again, me spreading Random Nut's name is something I did on my own degree.

Kazaa will probably run after him for building K-Lite and so will the RIAA. That is his problem, but again, I didnt put his name up because of Kazaa or the RIAA. They can do their own dirty work.

If somebody puts one of my users at risk doing anti P2P work, and I have the opportunity, I would break every bone in their body. What he did was not 'cool', Perhaps it may have been for K++ users, but say that he did it against you and deleted your files.

Lets say that he was using a Microsoft exploit that old Bill Gates had in the operating system and forgot to take out. God knows there are millions. Lets say that Random Nut is responsible for erasing your files, and telling others to do so. He gets a pat on the back by his buddies for being a hacker, and then he gets the shit kicked out of him by the people he has hurt. Having advanced computer skills does not make somebody god.

Thank god nobodys files were deleted. Filehoover caught it in time and the exploit would only allow a very advanced user to execute it. In reality, if I would of heard of one person whos computer files had gone missing, I would pay $3,000 to somebody with airfare and accomidation to show up at his home. I'll even be more blunt, I made the telephone call and put somebody on standby yesterday. I dont fuck around when it comes to my users.

I am responsible for a lot of users, and I take it very personal. I have invested over 2 years into this specific project. I dont delete files, I provide them. I provide direct verified downloads, streaming, FTP services and lots more for free.

If he had done something to me directly, or to ES5, you would have never heard his name. The minute he tried to screw with my users, he should know that my only responsibility is to my users. Why the fuck should I protect somebodys identity who is malicious? Can somebody please answer that? You want to hurt my users and you want me to remain quiet? Sorry, in my world, things dont work that way.

Random Nut didnt do anything to help the users or P2Pr's, he did it for personal gain. He wanted to be in the lime light. Now that his name is rolling around, he is exactly where he wanted to be. Only I think in the long run, his name being rolled, specifically with Kazaa and the RIAA after him, all this will have caused him more damage than good. That is his problem and I am not merciful to those who try to delete the files of my users. Sorry, he's anti p2p in my book. But again, I didnt print his name to help neither Kazaa or the RIAA. I did it so that my users will have his address if shit happens.

I have had his address for a long time, over 6 months, so again, I never published it while he bashed and thrashed es5. Why should I? He has every right to voice his opinion for good or bad. The minute he actively created an executable exploit and promoted deleting my users files, he crossed the line.

I can be just as malicious and hurtful, if not 1 million times worst, than Shaun Garriock could ever be. I am of action, not words. ES5 is not Kazaa. We are the only p2p network to have a direct dialog with our users. No other p2p network even admits to building their network for p2p - they all deny it.

I know that Random Nut knows that I am dead serious when I say I would easily pay a couple thousand dollars for somebody to physically hurt him if he did damage to my users. I am not egotistical and nor would I do it for egotistical reasons. I would do it to protect our users and other people from his bullshit anti p2p dirty tactics.

This is NOT an issue of network competition we are talking about. We are talking about people and their private computers getting fucked by the malicious activity of an evil individual.

ES5 actually backs its users. If something happens to you guys, then I feel it happened to me. If I can help, then be sure I will. I am not Kazaa who stands by and watches their users get sued, specifically little 12 year old girls and does nothing.

So when people ask how SharePro could say and/or do such a thing, understand the difference between networks.

Followed By An ES5 User...

QUOTE (Anon Y Mous Posted: Oct 5 2003 @ 10:25 AM)
SharePro, I appreciate the fact that you are so protective of ES5 users - but, you may want to delete your
prevous post right away.

I am not sure whether you are thinking this thru very carefully. Your words will come back to hurt you.
In essence, you will give ES5 even more bad PR - worse than the 15 million user thing, worse than this
exploit RandNut thing.

I'm trying to help you here. I don't want want you to shoot yourself and ES5 in the foot.
I realize that you don't hold anything back, and you really do say what you think, but someone
will copy these words and post them into other forums - they will use this against you.

Please, please - delete that post before anyone else sees this. Ask any of your mods what they think.
This may only end up hurting ES5 further in the eyes of potential P2Pers.

06-10-03, 02:13 AM	#51
daddydirt even the losers Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 1,090	meltdown... anybody else been following this?? (.)(.)(.)(.)(.) on the fuken f0rum drama-meter the following classic post is courtesy of ESV forum mod SharePro QUOTE (SharePro Posted: Oct 5 2003 @ 10:12 AM) I didnt get Random Nuts name from ES5. No where on this board or anywhere does ES5 ask you your name. So again, me spreading Random Nut's name is something I did on my own degree. Kazaa will probably run after him for building K-Lite and so will the RIAA. That is his problem, but again, I didnt put his name up because of Kazaa or the RIAA. They can do their own dirty work. If somebody puts one of my users at risk doing anti P2P work, and I have the opportunity, I would break every bone in their body. What he did was not 'cool', Perhaps it may have been for K++ users, but say that he did it against you and deleted your files. Lets say that he was using a Microsoft exploit that old Bill Gates had in the operating system and forgot to take out. God knows there are millions. Lets say that Random Nut is responsible for erasing your files, and telling others to do so. He gets a pat on the back by his buddies for being a hacker, and then he gets the shit kicked out of him by the people he has hurt. Having advanced computer skills does not make somebody god. Thank god nobodys files were deleted. Filehoover caught it in time and the exploit would only allow a very advanced user to execute it. In reality, if I would of heard of one person whos computer files had gone missing, I would pay $3,000 to somebody with airfare and accomidation to show up at his home. I'll even be more blunt, I made the telephone call and put somebody on standby yesterday. I dont fuck around when it comes to my users. I am responsible for a lot of users, and I take it very personal. I have invested over 2 years into this specific project. I dont delete files, I provide them. I provide direct verified downloads, streaming, FTP services and lots more for free. If he had done something to me directly, or to ES5, you would have never heard his name. The minute he tried to screw with my users, he should know that my only responsibility is to my users. Why the fuck should I protect somebodys identity who is malicious? Can somebody please answer that? You want to hurt my users and you want me to remain quiet? Sorry, in my world, things dont work that way. Random Nut didnt do anything to help the users or P2Pr's, he did it for personal gain. He wanted to be in the lime light. Now that his name is rolling around, he is exactly where he wanted to be. Only I think in the long run, his name being rolled, specifically with Kazaa and the RIAA after him, all this will have caused him more damage than good. That is his problem and I am not merciful to those who try to delete the files of my users. Sorry, he's anti p2p in my book. But again, I didnt print his name to help neither Kazaa or the RIAA. I did it so that my users will have his address if shit happens. I have had his address for a long time, over 6 months, so again, I never published it while he bashed and thrashed es5. Why should I? He has every right to voice his opinion for good or bad. The minute he actively created an executable exploit and promoted deleting my users files, he crossed the line. I can be just as malicious and hurtful, if not 1 million times worst, than Shaun Garriock could ever be. I am of action, not words. ES5 is not Kazaa. We are the only p2p network to have a direct dialog with our users. No other p2p network even admits to building their network for p2p - they all deny it. I know that Random Nut knows that I am dead serious when I say I would easily pay a couple thousand dollars for somebody to physically hurt him if he did damage to my users. I am not egotistical and nor would I do it for egotistical reasons. I would do it to protect our users and other people from his bullshit anti p2p dirty tactics. This is NOT an issue of network competition we are talking about. We are talking about people and their private computers getting fucked by the malicious activity of an evil individual. ES5 actually backs its users. If something happens to you guys, then I feel it happened to me. If I can help, then be sure I will. I am not Kazaa who stands by and watches their users get sued, specifically little 12 year old girls and does nothing. So when people ask how SharePro could say and/or do such a thing, understand the difference between networks. Followed By An ES5 User... QUOTE (Anon Y Mous Posted: Oct 5 2003 @ 10:25 AM) SharePro, I appreciate the fact that you are so protective of ES5 users - but, you may want to delete your prevous post right away. I am not sure whether you are thinking this thru very carefully. Your words will come back to hurt you. In essence, you will give ES5 even more bad PR - worse than the 15 million user thing, worse than this exploit RandNut thing. I'm trying to help you here. I don't want want you to shoot yourself and ES5 in the foot. I realize that you don't hold anything back, and you really do say what you think, but someone will copy these words and post them into other forums - they will use this against you. Please, please - delete that post before anyone else sees this. Ask any of your mods what they think. This may only end up hurting ES5 further in the eyes of potential P2Pers.