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Originally Posted by JackSpratts
i'm glad to hear you've jetisoned a few bad habits. 
1st: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
2nd: A well-regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed.
the first amendment is actually and demonstrably clearer about its protections than the 2nd (like nearly every gun enthusiast i speak to you left out the controversial part). the first amendment unambiguously states " Make No Law" - yet taxes are still collected on magazines, newspapers, music, telephone calls, answering machines and the like. my question wasn't rhetorical aweshucks. if the government, which needs money for lots of items like defense for instance, can collect it on one thing that's guaranteed by the constitution, like speech, then besides a rabid lobby, why would gun lovers think they're somehow immune?
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Immune from this bogus plan "of Chirac's" I would say yeah its bound to fail before it gets off the drawing board. The plans goals are out of reach for starters then the support needed will never happen.
Interesting link = http://rlcole.tripod.com/unat.html
Without debating the entire Constitution
Immune from taxes and the like here on a federal level...... no and far from it. Many times in recent years has the 2nd Amendment come under attack by more serious threats than just taxes. Example:
The Brady Bill and the Assault weapon Ban "now expired " Both bills are essentially worthless and do/did
nothing to stop crime and only affect
law abiding citizens and are cosmetic in nature.
Would we "gun lovers" like to be immune sure
However as the old saying goes "give them an inch and they will take a foot" We have to draw the line somewhere so let's start with nothing
Some Quotes: >
"Crimianls love gun control" - Unknown
"To my mind it is wholly irresponsible to go into the world incapable of preventing violence, injury, crime, and death. How feeble is the mindset to accept defenselessness. How unnatural. How cheap. How cowardly. How pathetic."
- Ted Nugent
"Arms in the hands of citizens may be used at individual discretion in private self defense." - John Adams
"...arms...discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property. ...Horrid mischief would ensue were (the law-abiding) deprived the use of them." - Thomas Paine
"You cannot invade mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind each blade of grass." - Admiral Yamamoto
"The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing. Indeed, I would go so far as to say that the supply of arms to the underdogs is a sine qua non for the overthrow of any sovereignty. So let's not have any native militia or native police. German troops alone will bear the sole responsibility for the maintenance of law and order throughout the occupied Russian territories, and a system of military strong-points must be evolved to cover the entire occupied country." - Adolf Hitler
"Gun Lovers" and the 2nd Amendments "current" #1 opponent 
"If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an out-right ban, picking up every one of them... 'Mr. and Mrs. America, turn 'em all in,' I would have done it. I could not do that. The votes weren't here." Senator Dianne Feinstein CBS-TV's "60 Minutes", February 5, 1995
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