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Originally posted by theknife
why is this "liberal bullshit"? because a psuedo-conservative president got us into this mess

Clinton was a psuedo-conservative?

it is factual that :

a) there are no links between Iraq and 9/11

but there was a link between Saddam and terrorism, remember his Palestinian Suicide Insurance policy? of course not, it doesn't fit into your "Saddam was misunderstood" philosophy.

b) there have been no WMD's found in Iraq

they are still looking, but there is signs of an ongoing program which is against numerous UN resolutions in and of itself, not to mention the biological agents found hidden in a scientists house

so you can spin the plight of the poor Iraqi people all you want, but the fact is we were sold a war under false pretenses. that is the first half of the administration's sins...

we were "sold" under the pretense that Saddam was a danger to us and his neighbors and had openly flaunted a laundry list of UN resolutions while letting his country wither away.

the second half is that they completely failed to understand what they were getting into....

i never remember anyone in the Administartion saying this would be easy, in fact they all said it would be hard and take a large committment of manpower and funds.

we now are stuck pouring billions of American tax dollars into a black hole in the Middle East that is killing American soldiers on a daily basis (15 more today)

see previous rebuttal

....while the primary beneficiaries of our financial largess all happen to be major Bush campaign donors.

i don't see any benefiting that shouldn't be, can you name other companies with the ability to do what Halibutron or Bechtel are doing?(which suprisingly isn't reported on the nightly news, i guess the good doesn't sell as well as dying people)

and the "exit strategy" is the same neo-conservative fantasy of Western-style democracy in Iraq that we have yet been unable to establish in Afghanistan.

i know little liberals like you support communism/socialism but it's not a very good ideology, sorry

so are the morons who got us into this mess

i agree , Clinton was a moron

far from "mission accomplished", we are in fact losing in Iraq because it's a guerilla war...and in a guerilla war, the insurgents win by not losing and the occupying forces lose by not winning.

Baghdad does not equal Iraq, but of course the news would have you believe that it does.