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Drakonix · 26-12-06, 10:51 PM

If you combine deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan, the 9/11 death toll (for all attacks) was surpassed on 09/23/2006.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14959937/

My point here is that the 2,973 people that died in (all) the attacks on 09/11/2001 died in several incidents within approximately one and one half hours, and the 2,973 that died in Afghanistan and Iraq died over a period of approximately five years.

Let's see....
2,973 deaths in 90 minutes averages about 33 deaths per minute, or about 1 death every 1.8 seconds.
2,973 deaths in 5 years (about 2,628,000 minutes) averages about 1 death every 883 minutes, or approximately 1 death every 14 hours and 43 minutes.

Let’s compare the death rates. In Iraq/Afghanistan, there was (an average of) 1 death in 883 minutes. The 9/11 incidents didn’t occur over that large of a period of time. The 9/11 incidents claimed the lives in about 90 minutes. To compare the death rates we have to match time periods. Since the average for Iraq/Afghanistan is 1 death in 883 minutes, we’ll take the (average of) 33 deaths per minute and sustain it for the 883 minute period for 1 death to occur in Iraq and Afghanistan. 33 deaths per minute for 883 minutes = 29,139 deaths.

So....
If we are going to spend something as precious as human life, it certainly makes sense to be as frugal as possible within the circumstances.

Do we let terrorists run free, killing with wild abandon (33 deaths per minute for 883 minutes = 29,139 deaths) or challenge the terrorists on their own turf thereby taking losses at a lower rate (1 death as opposed to 29,139 deaths)?

It’s not much of a choice. It doesn't take much imagination to think what the 29,138 people that would not die in this example would say.

The soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan have training and weapons, and can fight back. The people that died in the terrorist attacks on 09/11 didn’t have a chance.

Neither the Democrats nor anyone else is going to be able to appease the Islamic jihadists. Islamic terrorists want us to be Islam or to be dead, and we are not going along with that plan.

Money from oil and (illicit) drugs fuel the jihad and extend it far beyond it's former restricted boundaries.

In a taped message to the leaders of the (U.S.) Democratic Party, Al Qaeda #2 man Ayman al Zawahri has warned that the credit for the recent defeat of congressional Republicans belongs to terrorists.

The taped message also called on Democrats to negotiate with Zawari and Osama Bin Laden only, and no others in the Islamic World.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/...da_sends_.html

It is the standard Islamic “join us or die” stance commanded by the Qur’an in chapter nine verse five.

The Muslims can't even stop fighting amongst themselves, let alone consider such an agreement with International representatives.

Any amount of deaths is bad, but which death toll do you prefer - 2,973 deaths in 90 minutes by NOT fighting terrorists OR 2,793 deaths in 5 years by fighting terrorists?

26-12-06, 10:51 PM	#4
Drakonix Just Draggin' Along Join Date: Apr 2000 Posts: 1,210	If you combine deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan, the 9/11 death toll (for all attacks) was surpassed on 09/23/2006. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14959937/ My point here is that the 2,973 people that died in (all) the attacks on 09/11/2001 died in several incidents within approximately one and one half hours, and the 2,973 that died in Afghanistan and Iraq died over a period of approximately five years. Let's see.... 2,973 deaths in 90 minutes averages about 33 deaths per minute, or about 1 death every 1.8 seconds. 2,973 deaths in 5 years (about 2,628,000 minutes) averages about 1 death every 883 minutes, or approximately 1 death every 14 hours and 43 minutes. Let’s compare the death rates. In Iraq/Afghanistan, there was (an average of) 1 death in 883 minutes. The 9/11 incidents didn’t occur over that large of a period of time. The 9/11 incidents claimed the lives in about 90 minutes. To compare the death rates we have to match time periods. Since the average for Iraq/Afghanistan is 1 death in 883 minutes, we’ll take the (average of) 33 deaths per minute and sustain it for the 883 minute period for 1 death to occur in Iraq and Afghanistan. 33 deaths per minute for 883 minutes = 29,139 deaths. So.... If we are going to spend something as precious as human life, it certainly makes sense to be as frugal as possible within the circumstances. Do we let terrorists run free, killing with wild abandon (33 deaths per minute for 883 minutes = 29,139 deaths) or challenge the terrorists on their own turf thereby taking losses at a lower rate (1 death as opposed to 29,139 deaths)? It’s not much of a choice. It doesn't take much imagination to think what the 29,138 people that would not die in this example would say. The soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan have training and weapons, and can fight back. The people that died in the terrorist attacks on 09/11 didn’t have a chance. Neither the Democrats nor anyone else is going to be able to appease the Islamic jihadists. Islamic terrorists want us to be Islam or to be dead, and we are not going along with that plan. Money from oil and (illicit) drugs fuel the jihad and extend it far beyond it's former restricted boundaries. In a taped message to the leaders of the (U.S.) Democratic Party, Al Qaeda #2 man Ayman al Zawahri has warned that the credit for the recent defeat of congressional Republicans belongs to terrorists. The taped message also called on Democrats to negotiate with Zawari and Osama Bin Laden only, and no others in the Islamic World. http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/...da_sends_.html It is the standard Islamic “join us or die” stance commanded by the Qur’an in chapter nine verse five. The Muslims can't even stop fighting amongst themselves, let alone consider such an agreement with International representatives. Any amount of deaths is bad, but which death toll do you prefer - 2,973 deaths in 90 minutes by NOT fighting terrorists OR 2,793 deaths in 5 years by fighting terrorists? __________________ Copyright means the copy of the CD/DVD burned with no errors. I will never spend a another dime on content that I can’t use the way I please. If I can’t copy it to my hard drive and play it using the devices I want, when and where I want, I won’t be buying it. Period. They can all take their DRM, broadcast flags, rootkits, and Compact Discs that aren’t really compact discs and shove them up their bottom-lines.