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Originally Posted by Mazer
The war is a non-issue to all but a few Americans, knife. Though we all talk about it, few of us actually have to deal with it personally. Politicians only talk about the war in order to divide people. It's working; we're well and truly divided on the issue. But what has that accomplished?
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actually, the war consistently polls as the second most important issue to voters, behind the economy.
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Originally Posted by jcmd62
atm, Its clear that Obamas plan to pull the political wool over the eyes of the ignorant is working. So many people like you knife are falling for the "I want to, therefore I can" bullshit obama is spewing forth every chance he gets. Want in one hand and shit in the other and see which one fills up first.
Fact is what obama wants to do and can do are entirely different. He won't end the Iraq war and can't as Mazer properly pointed out. Even if obama lasts 8 years we will still be in Iraq when his term ends. So go ahead and base your vote decision on your ignorance of presidential limitations and what some inexperienced, unknown politician says he WANTS to do instead of what he actually can do. Obama is counting on people like you to focus on the war, something he can do nothing about, and not on the real issues that ARE going to affect you like his major tax increase he will impose the minute he takes office, something he can and will do.
Not that Im a big McCain fan but he never said he wants the war to continue indefinitely. He said we COULD be there for 100 years, not that he WANTS the war to continue. Not the best choice of words but at least he spoke the truth and reality of the situation in the middle east which is rare for a politician.
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you miss the point, laddie - McCain will continue the Bush policies and is on record as being in favor of a permanent Iraqi occupation ( which include 58 permament military bases in Iraq)... whereas Obama has expressly declared no permanent bases in Iraq. so the intent of each candidate is clear and the differences could not be sharper. since Obama was smart enough to foresee the Iraqi trainwreck coming in the first place, he has already demonstrated superior judgement in this area. he obviously has the will, and as Prez, he will also have the power, to end the military occupation of Iraq .