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Originally posted by Mazer
That is a loaded question, but I suppose that to you its answer is obvious.
They'll learn about democracy soon enough. They'll answer those polls asking whether they want us to stay, they'll tell us to get out, and if we do then they will have made their first and last democratic decision. They'll relish the moment that the voice of the majority defeated the USA, and look back on that day as the one and only time they were truely free. But after that they'll be oppressed and enslaved again because they chose to cast out the only other nation that actually listened to them and gave them a choice. Some lessons must be learned the hard way.
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actually, it's a rhetorical question...
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originally posted by albed
People have been complaining about having no exit strategy.
Well there it is...tuck tail and shuffle shamefully away.
Bush and Rumsfeld should bear the shame as much as they can to sort of cleanse the U.S. when they're removed in the next election.
Not that they're going to volunteer.
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why should a departure from Iraq now be shameful?
all along, it's been "we gotta get rid of Saddam, he's a threat, he's got wmd's yada yada yada", right? well, we went in there, we got Saddam, he's no longer a threat, there doesn't seem to be any wmd's - that mission's been accomplished. the only problem is now it seems the Iraqis don't wanna go to the next level. so be it. let them sort it out.
the troops, with exception of the few involved in the prisoner abuse cases, could certainly leave with their heads' held high - they did a hell of a job, they achieved their objective, and they really are heros. nothing shameful whatsoever about it.
so the "shame" of leaving Iraq really is only a political problem for a relatively small handful of people - Bush, Cheney, Wolfowitz, Perle et al. as well it should be, no?
and since they are same people who so masterfully spun our way into this war, maybe they can spin our way out. particularly when there is a significant percentage of the US public that will still buy whatever they're selling
