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Originally Posted by theknife
ah, i see the problem - you grasp simple transactions like "giving them money"
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There is no "giving them money" as I have stated and you are the one confusing "not taking" with "giving".
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but the slightly more complex "giving them billions of dollars in publicly-owned resources"
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How can the government "give" something it doesn't possess? Maybe it should be charging people for all its air and water that it's "giving" us.
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or "giving them below-market royalty rates for extraction of taxpayer-owned rersources"
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There is no "royalty market". You're ignorance of economics matches your ignorance of ethics. And as a "taxpayer", my ownership of any "resources" is purely your own contrivance. Or perhaps you can tell me how to sell my portion?
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but if we use your standard, free health care or free food to the poor would not be welfare either. sounds like you've got kind of a closet-liberal thing going
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Forcing people to labor for the food and health care of others is slavery and all I've "got going" is simple ethics which you are unable to comprehend.