where have all the liberals gone?
With Ramona's departure I'm inclined to wonder 'where have all the liberals gone?'. :hip:
Still plenty of sniping at Bush's policies but never any liberal alternatives. No more defense of taking money from people who earn it and giving it to people who don't. No more clamoring for reducing military spending and increasing welfare spending. No more arguments for giving compassion to criminals instead of punishment. Do liberals today stand for anything except opposing conservatives? Does anyone here still embrace liberal values? PS. Does the "BTK Killer" Dennis Rader make anyone else think of Ramona? It's been nagging at me for a long time. :PO: |
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i don't hate republicans, i am just indifferent same result, less effort |
I miss ramona 2
she mostly ran off at the mouth.
T'was fun. |
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But unlike you, I have the freedom to do that dont' I? Quote:
It should be done sooner but it's the damn liberals you know. Quote:
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But when your government disarms you and renders you helpless it really doesn't matter what you value. You just have to hope that your life is valued. Good luck. |
albed, you know you can troll conservatives too, like you used to do with me. The real challenge, of course, is figuring out how to discredit somebody who agrees with you without labeling them a liar.
It's like you don't even try anymore. :dunno: |
Set yourself up again then dude. When I caught you lying I let you know and it was no challenge at all; A raffle is gambling, soldiers do refuse to fight in the US army, Roe v Wade restricts the government instead of the citizens so it's not legislating by the court, the US occupied all of Japan after WW2, not just Okinawa.
You're easy. I know liberals are generally liars but I don't cut conservatives any slack because conservatives don't have to lie. You just do it because you don't have the knowledge. I do. So watch out. |
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still i am here, i am not afraid to go outside and have fun, i still don't lock the doors at night and i am not mentally damaged (well not by crime anyways ;)) and still i am happy and don't own a gun. I just don't think that every illegal act has to be met with capital punishment, not even rape. Maybe women beg to differ? But even you Albed have to agree with me that capital punishment doesn't work. Are all the death rows in America empty? how much crime was prevented because the state could fry your ass? If i am allowed to have a guess from my side of the pond, pretty much NONE!!! Quote:
See, there are two sides on a medal |
I just don't see why carrying a gun is a good thing.
There's a lot of hate in this world and sure... maybe I would feel safer. But it's too easy to pull the trigger and end a human life. Think about it... I could be killed by now because some idiot got his/her hands on a gun. There are a lot of sick minds running around, when these people can get this kind of power this easily, they would use it too. Even when they get caught and are convicted, you still lost someone close to you, or leaving your family behind. So please tell me again why this is a good thing... |
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so, when applied righteously, capital punishment works pretty well. |
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Freedom to me is the 'good thing'. If you think your personal circumstances require owning a gun you'd be able to. But when a government treats all it's citizens as potential criminals it's an insult and an injustice. |
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@The Knive, recidivism might be zero if you are willing to trade in a little bit of your humanity. The death certificate of some one who just got KILLED by lethal injection, gas chamber or by what ever means the inmate's live was TERMINATED, clearly states MURDER!!!! All done in your name too. (provided you live in a state that does have capital punishment) Indeed i would be proud of that too :no: |
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so i do not think it is inhumane to kill people who are a permanent threat to thier fellow human beings - execution is simply the only way to ensure a repeat proven killer will not kill again. |
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Hey, I just lost some of my liberal views |
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Murder:#1 The unlawful killing of one human by another, especially with premeditated malice. You're flat out lying there toy boy. The execution of murderers in the US is the most lawful killing you'll ever find. I'm starting to suspect theknife is a closet conservative. Quote:
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Testimony taken in committee 03/03/2005 H Left pending in committee Relating to showing the cause of death on the death certificate of an inmate of the Texas Department of Criminal Justice who is lawfully executed. Current death certificates of executed people list cause of death as "Homicide". Again you are reaching Albed. Call me a liar all you want, actually it is kinda cute Quote:
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edits: those damn typos again |
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I can feel safe because I don’t think that my number has come up all the time, I can feel safe because I don’t have to look over my shoulder to see if some one sneaks up on me with a gun! Of course I would like to see those sick minds of the street as much as you do but it isn’t up to me to do that. That is up to the legal system however flawed it may be. Besides that every society has its fair share of idiots. No amount of guns in your house will prevent that. Quote:
You see albed over here when a cop pulls me over he gets out of his car with his hands stretched out in order to shake mine, a true insult and serious injustice I must say. |
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Heck no, you're a liberal. :N: |
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