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Malk-a-mite 15-04-01 02:41 AM

Considering this was a topic to some of us recently - this is from the operator of http://www.kuro5hin.org/.

Read and comment (full story in link):
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Why Community Matters

"Human reality is socially constructed. That is, most of the "facts" that determine our daily lives are socially constructed facts, which are true as long as enough people believe them to be true. The right to own property, the right to not be murdered, indeed the right to continue to live at all; all of these are socially constructed rights, which are true only as long as enough of us believe in them.

American society has created for itself a Mobius-like reality by privileging capital, or property rights, above all else. This has granted corporations the power to purchase the reality that best suits them, and corporations in turn recreate the reality that privileges money. Communities -- places, real or virtual, where people speak directly to each other, without corporate mediation -- are the only hope we have to reassert control over our own reality, and place it back in the hands of people, instead of the fictional entities we call corporations. "

greedy_lars 15-04-01 02:44 AM

i rule my own destiny


fate only happens occasionally

Dawn 15-04-01 04:26 AM

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Originally posted by greedy_lars
i rule my own destiny


fate only happens occasionally

You come up with the best lines greedy!! ;)

And sorry Malk, too early for me to comprehend this post. I promise to come back to it after getting my caffiene fix. :D

gazdet 15-04-01 07:50 AM

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Which of your opinions determines the reality in which you live, and from where did you derive that opinion? Are we, as a species, satisfied with the reality we've constructed for ourselves? It is only by asking and truthfully answering these questions, like Jefferson did, that we can begin to reassert control over the basic facts of our existence. Community matters because communities are people, and people create reality. What world do you want to create?


Good job Malk, it's worth a read :)

GuessWhatChikenButt 15-04-01 08:11 AM

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"Human rights" are fundamentally a social construct. Your individual right to continue to live is maintained only as long as there is not a more powerful individual or group who wishes to cause your death. Humans have no natural predators -- that is, no species other than humanity itself supports its existence by killing humans.
I thought this paragraph deserved a second read all...

EDIT: The only thing, is what this guy wrote meant nothing to me, other then a bunch of Charlie Brown Wanka Wanka.. I did however like the above statement...IMO, and I will not argue about this so if you try...you can...BITE ME... so here goes, A Whole lot of GOD is all you need, once you got that down, all this other sheit makes no diffrence!! PEACE ALL...
HAPPY EASTER :D
DONT DISS JESUS I WILL JUST IGNORE YOU!! :D :D

thinker 15-04-01 08:53 AM

Interesting, especially certain portions. However, like one of the replies, some people will all boil rights down to scientific possibility, which is inherently dangerous. There's always a mighty fine line to walk, *sigh*.

GuessWhatChikenButt 15-04-01 08:58 AM

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Originally posted by thinker
Interesting, especially certain portions. However, like one of the replies, some people will all boil rights down to scientific possibility, which is inherently dangerous. There's always a mighty fine line to walk, *sigh*.
OMG THINKER THAT IS SOOOOOO TRUE!!;)
HAPPY EASTER!!

kristof47 15-04-01 09:05 AM

Please, no sociology! I just took (and probably failed) an exam about this shit. I will read this later on.

HellBound 15-04-01 09:05 AM

The United States Declaration of Independence reads, in part, as follows:
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed...
While Jefferson ultimately attributes the source of humanity's "inalienable rights" to the "Creator," he recognizes that the only way for humanity to maintain these rights is by self-governance. That is, whether you are granted rights by God or not is essentially irrelevant, since the actual exercise of those rights is a social phenomenon.

Deriving their just powers from the consent of the goverened....that sentence should say it all...but it doesnt...when it comes down to it...the consent come from those with the most money...usually corporations.

HellBound

and no you dont need a whole lot of god, you need belief in yourself and belief in what you do...and no one but yourself can give you that.

GuessWhatChikenButt 15-04-01 09:42 AM

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Originally posted by HellBound
The United States Declaration of Independence reads, in part, as follows:
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed...
While Jefferson ultimately attributes the source of humanity's "inalienable rights" to the "Creator," he recognizes that the only way for humanity to maintain these rights is by self-governance. That is, whether you are granted rights by God or not is essentially irrelevant, since the actual exercise of those rights is a social phenomenon.

Deriving their just powers from the consent of the goverened....that sentence should say it all...but it doesnt...when it comes down to it...the consent come from those with the most money...usually corporations.

HellBound

and no you dont need a whole lot of god, you need belief in yourself and belief in what you do...and no one but yourself can give you that.


blah blah blah blah blah........HAPPY EASTER!! God Loves you Too :D

tafkaMr.E 15-04-01 10:28 AM

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Originally posted by GuessWhatChikenButt



blah blah blah blah blah........HAPPY EASTER!! God Loves you Too :D

Wow! You gave in quick.:ND:

GuessWhatChikenButt 15-04-01 10:33 AM

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Originally posted by tafkaMr.E


Wow! You gave in quick.:ND:

;)

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DONT DISS JESUS I WILL JUST IGNORE YOU!!
HAPPY EASTER!!!! :D

Floopster 15-04-01 10:38 AM

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Originally posted by greedy_lars
i rule my own destiny


fate only happens occasionally

As long as we occupy this soft machine that can easily lose it's life giving blood, we rule nothing, not even ourselves.

The joke is on anyone who believes otherwise!

tafkaMr.E 15-04-01 10:45 AM

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Originally posted by Floopster


As long as we occupy this soft machine that can easily lose it's life giving blood, we rule nothing, not even ourselves.

The joke is on anyone who believes otherwise!

We rule our own destinies more than any living being or entity can.

GuessWhatChikenButt 15-04-01 10:58 AM

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Originally posted by tafkaMr.E


We rule our own destinies more than any living being or entity can.

NOPE :D
HAPPY EASTER!!

tafkaMr.E 15-04-01 11:02 AM

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Originally posted by GuessWhatChikenButt


NOPE :D
HAPPY EASTER!!

I suppose we'll have to agree to disagree on that.

btw. The ignoring thing is going well innit?:D

RDixon 15-04-01 11:04 AM

You guys are aware that http://www.kuro5hin.org/.
is all just a big fake aren't you?

HellBound 15-04-01 11:06 AM

Well since I don't want to make this a debate about religion...specially since i believe everyone has the right to their own opinion and beliefs...i will just say

my name isnt HeavenBound..and i have my own reasons for not picking that name...

HellBound

*HellBound waves hi to Malk~~

GuessWhatChikenButt 15-04-01 11:08 AM

;) :b:

HAPPY EASTER!! :D

Floopster 15-04-01 11:18 AM

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Originally posted by tafkaMr.E


We rule our own destinies more than any living being or entity can.

Try stopping those other beings or entities from devouring your body once you are dethroned from ruling your exsitence.

Please forgive the morbidity of my response.


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