John Kerry reminds me of...
 

A cross between Herman Munster and Abe Lincoln :BL:

I'd rather vote for dumbass. :help:

he reminds me of Davros from Doctor Who, he even has the halting, robotic delivery when he talks

this just in.....

lol

Kerry's Unknown Star Wars Bit Gig

John F. Kerry, Democratic Presidential hopeful, was, unknown to most fans, a bit character in the last Star Wars movie Episode II: Attack of the Clones.

He played San Hill, Chairman of the InterGalactic Banking Clan. In the movie, Kerry's character joined the Confederacy of Independent Systems on Geonosis, but only committed his forces in a non-exclusive arrangement.

"Kerry is a natural," commented George Lucas. "He'll be in the next movie whether he's President or not."

Makeup artists raved at how little they had to do to fix him up. "All we had to do was apply a little blush and put on a fake bald cap," said Jenny Goop, lead makeup artist. "His hidden hair made the fake head taller than Lucas wanted, but it worked anyway."

"George [Lucas] told me to say anything I wanted to in the scene because they were going to impose another language anyway," recollected Kerry. "So I ripped a cursing tirade against Bush that had everyone in stitches. I think it's on the DVD uncut."

It's believed that Kerry is behind this news just now coming out as a strategic ploy to gain younger voters in order to win the primary.

Howard Dean was also in the movie—as a screeching Tuscan Raider.

funny stuff here:BL:

All very funny.
You are to be congratulated on your pictoral humour.
:D
The point about Herman Munster is very true.

:BL:

What happened here? who messin' around?

no #'s on replies or reads?

Someone is being nasty.......

:)

much better. it does make me wonder what was going on tho~

In the past when u moved my threads u used to say moved.

Now we only get - or =.

I guess reading about US politics and being a Aussie must be boring.

Ban everything, I say. :NS:

WMD found.....
 

john kerry = whiny massachusetts democrat :ND:

:)

John Kerry reminds me of...

the next president of the usa. :ND:

- js.

john kerry reminds you of george bush?

nah. i said "next" not worst. :D

- js.

oh how soon they forget Jimmay :no:

har! the only place kerry will ever be president is in your dreams..and his. :BL:

no question Kerry is a classic political hack, but who in politics isn't? (though the anti-war stuff is a non-issue - if he went over there and fought it, then he earned the right to call it like he saw it).

but i see the lesser of two evils with Kerry..and since there is nothing that has happened in the last four years that should entitle our psuedo conservative prez George "Orwell" Bush to keep his job, i have no qualms at all about voting for him.

tk..if you have no "qualms" about voting for kerry, i'd advise you to read up on his history...all of it. after you have, in all seriousness, i hope you will re-think your present stance.

kerry went far beyond just "calling it like he saw it". he turned against his fellow soldiers and america.
http://mensnewsdaily.com/archive/a-b...rich021304.htm




read what vietnam veterans think of him, visit the site...read it all.....
http://www.usvetdsp.com/jf_kerry.htm



then, read how kerry doesn't think that "al qaeda is all that bad"....
http://www.opinioneditorials.com/fre..._20040211.html

hanoi jane & john.....

his second tour of duty scoob.

five rows behind fonda, 3 years before she went to hanoi? the administration should concentrate their efforts explaining how bush jumped a 500 person que getting into the guard only to be so insignificant a presence the dentist who supposedly fixed this celebrity son of a congressman's teeth can't even remember him.

kerry was a true, genuine hero both in war and again in peaceful protest, the backbone of a participatory democracy.

all this while bush did little but drink to oblivion with his privileged frat boy pals.

the republicans should be ashamed for inventing this drama.

- js.

scoob, imho, if the man went over to Vietnam, took three bullets in the process of doing his duty, neither you nor i or anybody who wasn't there has any right to judge his views or actions on the subject. and for every vet who slams him, there's another who supports him - clearly, it's a question of perspective, and obviously, political orientation, as to how you view his conduct.

the jane fonda picture is a silly, desperate, and laughingly transparent attempt to paint the guy red. the GOP is preaching to the choir with this Vietnam stuff - most voters aren't gonna give a shit:RE:

regardless, it's a non-issue...we're talking about events 30 years gone. as i have to assume that Bush is no longer the same party frat guy he was then, i will also assume Kerry has matured and grown as any adult is likely to do between ages 20 and 50.

as for the Al Queda threat, frankly, the administration simply no longer has credibility in this area. by their own admission, they have serious flawed intelligence capabilities...and the whole Bush re-election campaign depends on keeping the public scared. there is every reason to question the administration's spin and less reason than ever to believe it.

btw, that Gary Aldrich quote is a little ridiculous, no? why bother to quote a guy who assumes he speaks for 50,000 guys who have been dead for 30 years? hell, you might as well quote yourself for what that's worth:RE:

i'd hardly call him a celebrity. i could stand next to any congressmans son and not know who the hell he was. Besides, a dentist that probably saw thousands of patients a year for untold number of years can't remember some schumk 30 years ago? SHOCKING!

the Democrats should be ashamed for inventing this drama and trying to use it again (after it already failed once).

if you're going to stay in this debate at least try to keep up.

tell that to the guys in the guard unit. the ones alabama knew about the "celebrity" (thier words) schumk (yours) coming in to thier unit from texas. they sure remember looking for him but they don't remember seeing him.

he's no hero, he may even be a deserter but had bush at least done some protesting i'd have a bit of respect for the guy.

kerry on the other hand is the real thing.

he fought for his country in battle and worked against the war in vietnam upon his return, doing both in service to americans fighting and dying there, while bush jumped queues and let others go in his place.

kerry was - and is - light years beyond bush the pretender.

- js.

if he was a "deserter" then why did he get an honorable discharge? that seems to be something the Dems can't answer without resorting to baseless conspiracy theories.

also it's funny that the anti-war/anti-military party somehow now thinks military service is of utmost importance for a leader. Kerry might have been a war hero but he became a traitor to his own servicemen the day he called them all war criminals.

how indeed span, and how did he get to the head of a 500 man line? the answer to those questions should be examined.

as for your pictures, there are no dates, no context to those photographs but it doesn’t surprise me since it’s just more shallow republican propaganda attempting to belittle a hero by association. i’m sure we can all pull up pictures of bush standing near thieves and reprobates, criminals and conspirators much more recent than those 30 year images. and if the republicans continue in this fashion i’m sure we’ll see plenty of embarrassing bush shots. won’t that be educational? since you actually think they’re relevant i’ll be happy to plaster the board with them.

in spite of the hope you have in posting those shots that they somehow diminish kerry they do the opposite. i see a young man with the courage of his convictions willing to state publicly his beliefs, no matter how unpopular they may be in that company town washington, and willing to take the heat for them. the millions of young men, the thousands of veterans pinning hopes on somebody with the courage to do just that: to go up against the corrupt officials championing the war who would soon be in jails themselves. someone to take on a war that mcnamara himself the wars architect ultimately admitted was a terrible mistake but whose offices continued in sending young men to their pointless deaths. it needed to be done and we’re better for it. i juxtapose that with bush who escaped his duty by letting others serve for him while smugly taking credit for performing it, a man whose people continue disparaging anyone today, even those who fought bravely, because they didn’t agree with an immoral war their leader did all he could to avoid: this empty president who leads by manipulation and hides behind lies made to the very people he cynically claims allegiance.

- js.

John Kerry reminds me of...

JackSpratts:CG:

vote 1! herman munster :D

just say you like him because he's not Bush/republican, we know thats the only reason and it will save you alot of typing.

there are actually some reasonable Republicans, but given Bush's abysmal record, "anybody but Bush" is a perfectly valid reason to support Kerry,

now that’s rich…a liberal accusing republicans of inventing drama!

the left always play dirty every chance they get, it’s the one thing they excel at. kerry is running on the “i'm a war hero” platform, yet the right gets accused of inventing drama when they question, and point out the facts of kerry’s record. the left wants to question bush on his service record but the right can't question kerry on his?

now that it serves his ambition to be president, kerry reminds the public of his war record daily. but the dark side of that record is not being told by the media..of course. the despicable facts about kerry speak for themselves, they’re all on record…but the lefty’s can’t be bothered reading real facts. they’re too wrapped up in their frenzy to invent lies about the person they despise.

who accused bush of being “awol”? who accused him of lying? who accused him of being a traitor? who accused him of being a murderer? who equated him with hitler? who compared the iraq war with the vietnam war? who accused bush of planning the 9/11 attack and invading iraq before he was even president?

lol, you accuse conservatives of inventing drama?

liberals desperately try to tear down bush’s record, past and present..but they can’t…there are no facts to back up them up. republicans and other thoughtful, savvy citizens realize that bush's real "record" is that of an honest courageous and gallant commander-in-chief.

he's been commander-in-chief during the most traumatic time in american history since world war II. he hadn't been in office for a year when the planes hit the twin towers, but have the liberals noticed, or even give a damn that there haven't been any more such catastrophes. no.

i hope that the "hero costume" is torn from kerry, piece by piece, until he is standing with nothing but the ugly truth of his anti-military beliefs. although, that will only make him even more attractive to you extreme lefties…everyone else will see the real truth about him.
what a stupid reason to base your vote on. you bear a hatred and malice toward bush that is difficult to fathom. i swear, the liberal extremists would vote for bin laden if it assured the defeat of bush.

:no: don't personalize it, scoob, coz i sure don't....there's nobody on this planet for whom i harbor hatred and malice (and that includes my ex-wife) - life's way too short.

i judge the man on his record - you can play the liberal card coz if it makes you feel better, but i can go through Bush's record, foreign and domestic, point by point, and be quite comfortable that a vote against him is in the best interest of my country:beer:

tk, if you in fact truly judge bush on his record..not the liberal hyped up record…you would then be quite comfortable that a vote for him is in the best interest of your country.

by your posts you do seem to harbor a hatred for bush…but since you say you personally don’t, I apologize for the assumption.
:beer:

i think he could be a kanamit in disguise..
 

:sus:

Fake picture...???
 

...talking about inventing stuff... take a look.

Frightening attempt to fake Kerry protograph...
Back story regarding the picture that, presumably, wasn't good enough...

Not really interested in this tedious merry-go-round about Kerry. He's another politician and I doubt he'll bring anything to a potential Presidency that any other schmook could bring. In the end, he'll play the 'hero' or 'security experienced' card as much as possible - largely because Bush has (probably unadvisably) defined himself as a wartime leader... Both are opportunistically playing with the still raw emotions surrounding 9/11 and Iraq, because both know that to campaign on any other issue would leave themselves open to the accusation of being 'soft' (or some other such mindless bullshit).

As for the whole, "he threw his ribbons/medals and criticised fellow soldiers = traitor" rubbish... Get real - as I understand, he was pissed off with many things: the conduct of soldiers in the field, the blind-eye turned by the respective administrations and the state that the US had found itself in after following a misadvised foriegn policy of social engineering. Amazing how history repeats itself isn't it?

To me, Kerry's an unknown quantity, and the chances are that he'll have plenty of REAL skeletons in his cupboard that'll damage him later on. At the moment, I'll reserve my judgement on Kerry, but let's say I'm less than convinced by efforts to paint him as a terrorist-sympathiser, a communist-lover, an America-hater with equations to Bin-Laden. It's populistic crap-ola designed to instill fear: "Don't vote for this guy, coz you'll die a horrible WMD death if he's in power". The Dems are no better: "Don't vote for Bush, coz you'll die in poverty, with no healthcare and you'll be so undereducated you'll be too stupid to realise it... Oh, but we'll change all that."

The 'impartial' line appears to be: "Don't vote for Bush, coz he's a pretzel-choking, war-mongering, big-business-money-funnelling moron... Oh and Kerry looks like a genetic monster, but don't let that fuck y'up - it's better than nothing".

If the Reps want to criticise him, they could concentrate on the mixed messages over Iraq or his lack of direct Senatorial involvement, or even the poor showing regarding MIA's. But they won't... it just isn't as juicy. Looking forward to a dirty, smear-fest campaign by both 'sides'.

the pic is fake eh? span's and scoob’s fonda association is a falsehood? why am i not surprised. again more lies from the right. :no:

- js.

eh, it doesn't matter. Kerry will get pummeled on his record alone. the little pictures are just irrelevent extra's. If you think Bush will be focusing on Kerry's time after Vietnam or his association with Fonda you're a flat out moron. his flip flopping senate voting record is enough to sink 3 or 4 candidates.

how the bush camp apologizes for lying. :BL:

- js.

oh so the "bush camp" put this pic out? i assume you have proof of that?

i know this may shock you but not every negative thing out of the pike runs across Gilespie's desk.

Very true - people following the example of the politicos - reminds me of the classic Rumsfeld explainations for monumental bullshit...

"I misspoke"

Oh, well that's alright then... carry on.

oh sorry i forgot the Dems are paragons of truth and integrity (well as long as you throw out Clinton getting impeached for lying and having no integrity).

:RE: x 1,000,000

i was quoting you span. you and scooby brought the pics into the forum in an attempt to falsely discredit kerry by association. you are in the bush camp are you not (ok ok, i’m making an assumption here. now’s your chance to renounce him, lol)


“lying” about one’s sex life is irrelevant, and it’s nobody’s business unless i guess you’re in the taliban or some other religious fundamentalist group like the right wing apparently. still. we’re talking about kerry and bush, or are you guys still running against clinton? btw, he was aquitted.

exaggerating or lying about your own “take the easy way out” military career while lying about a true war hero in an attempt to smear him is in a whole different category don’t you think?

while sending 500 americans to their deaths by lying about the reasons to them, to congress and to the world is truly a contemptible act.

- js.

so you actually think that the association between kerry and fonda is a "falsehood" because one pic is a fake? all that shows is that you haven't researched kerry's history, or read any of the links that have been posted documenting his record.

in this thread you've expressed your admiration for kerry many times, you've even called him a "true, genuine hero", and the "real thing", yet you obviously know nothing about his history or what he stands for. if you did, you'd know that his association with fonda is a well documented fact.

scooby if we were outside and you said the sun was shining i'd look up to make sure. :D

- js.

again...there is one fake picture. the others are real, and believe me, more will surface before this is over. if you knew anything about kerry's history, you wouldn't be accusing anyone of attempting to falsely try to discredit kerry by association.

the kerry/fonda association is a part of history, you don't know your facts....read up.

lol...that's cause you're a liberal...you wouldn't know the sun was shining, someone would have to tell you. :D

On Labor Day weekend 1970, Kerry - then a rising star with Vietnam Veteran Against the War - teamed up with Fonda as the two headlined an ugly anti-war in rally in Valley Forge, Pa., railing against U.S. policy in Southeast Asia from the back of the same flatbed truck.

The photo shows "Hanoi Jane" listening raptly as speakers denounced American soldiers for committing "genocide" in Vietnam and accusing the U.S. of "international racism."



----Six days after a photo surfaced showing Sen. John Kerry with anti-American activist Jane Fonda, the Democratic presidential front-runner ordered his campaign to drop their attacks on President Bush's National Guard service.

"I have suggested to some people who are my advocates, who have gone [to] that line of attack -- it's not one that I plan to do, so I've asked them not to," Kerry said at Sunday night's Democratic debate in Milwaukee, Wisconsin.

Kerry had sounded eager just twelve days earlier to focus on charges that Bush went AWOL from an Alabama Guard unit in 1972, telling the Boston Globe, "I think it's up to the president and the military to answer those questions."

Vietnam Veteran Exposes Kerry's 'Phony' Anti-war Testimony

More and more facts are surfacing about the untrue claims John Kerry made as an anti-war activist after returning as a hero from Vietnam.

"Unfortunately, Mr. Kerry came home to Massachusetts, the one state George McGovern carried in 1972. He joined the Vietnam Veterans Against the War and emceed the Winter Soldier Investigation (both financed by Jane Fonda)," Stephen Sherman, who was a first lieutenant with the U.S. Army Fifth Special Forces Group (Airborne) in Vietnam in 1967-68, writes in today's Wall Street Journal.

"Many veterans believe these protests led to more American deaths, and to the enslavement of the people on whose behalf the protests were ostensibly being undertaken. But being a take-charge kind of guy, Mr. Kerry became a leader in the VVAW and even testified before Congress on the findings of the Investigation, which he accepted at face value.



BUSH'S GUARD 'ACCUSER' ADMITS FAULTY MEMORY

http://www.nypost.com/news/nationalnews/17932.htm

sap smears

no it doesn't sinner. the photo shows people against the war at an outdoor event, one of whom is actress jane fonda, two years before she toured vietnam.

“My reaction is that the American people have had it with the big lie. Any attempt to link Kerry to me and make him look bad with that connection is completely false. We were at a rally for veterans at the same time. I spoke, Donald Sutherland spoke, John Kerry spoke at the end. I don't even think we shook hands. And they're also saying this organization, the Vietnam Veterans Against the War, was a Communist organization. This was an organization of men who risked their lives in Vietnam, who considered themselves totally patriotic. So anyone who slams that organization and slams Kerry for being part of it is doing an injustice to veterans. How can you impugn, how can you even suggest, that anyone like Kerry or any of these veterans were not patriotic? He was a hero there.” – Jane Fonda

so the guy who "can’t remember seeing bush" in the guard is now a liar because it turns out he actually can’t remember seeing bush? you guys are really getting carried away now. :BL:

- js.

I look at Kerry and the subject of the Military and Defense...


Recently, GOP chairman Ed Gillespie in an address to the Republican National Committee ticked off vote after vote in which Kerry sought to cut the nation?s defense budget:


In 1991 Kerry voted to cut defense spending by two percent. Only 21 other Senators voted with Kerry, and the defense cut was defeated.

In 1991, Kerry voted to cut over $3 billion from defense and shift the funds to social programs. Only 27 Senators joined Kerry in voting for the defense cut.

In 1992, Kerry voted to cut $6 billion from defense. Republicans and Democrats, alike, successfully blocked this attempt to cut defense spending.

In 1993, Kerry voted against increased defense spending for a military pay raise.

In 1993, Kerry introduced a plan to cut the number Of navy submarines and their crews; reduce tactical fighter wings in the Air Force; terminate the Navy?s coastal mine-hunting ship program; force the retirement of 60,000 members of the armed forces in one year; and reduce the number of light infantry units in the Army down to one. The plan was DOA.

In 1995, Kerry voted to freeze defense spending for seven years, cutting over $34 billion from defense. Only 27 other senators voted with Kerry.

In 1996, Kerry introduced a bill to cut Defense Department funding by $6.5 billion. Kerry?s bill had no co-sponsors and never came to a floor vote.

In 1996, Kerry voted yes on a fiscal 1996 budget resolution ? a defense freeze that would have frozen defense spending for the next seven years and transferred the $34.8 billion in savings to education and job training. The resolution was rejected 28-71.


PS, I wanted to edit part of my last post but King Gaz thinks I am a trouble maker and won't let me......

lol, now your quoting jane fonda? if you want to try to appear the least bit credible, you should really find a more reputable source than hanoi jane.



Hanoi Jane's Definition of "Hero"

"Fonda defended Kerry as a patriotic hero for protesting the war, not for what he did in the war, but for protesting the war. That's what made him a patriotic hero to her. Yet she says that he is being smeared by being linked to her. How can those two both go together?"

"Kerry came back from Vietnam, and testified before Congress about the atrocities that were committed. He accused the U.S. military of murdering 200,000 Vietnamese citizens a year.

Now, a question to Senator Kerry: Sir, if you knew that these atrocities were going on in Vietnam, why didn't you report them to your superiors at the time, instead of waiting until you got back to testify to Congress? And why did you save your medals while you told your buddies to throw theirs away? We all know that story."

"This has been gnawing at me for the longest time. He knows these alleged atrocities are going on and doesn't tell anybody at the time, just engages in normal military service. Then when he gets his medals and comes back is when he starts ripping everything. Why didn't he report it at the time where he could have done something to stop it?"

"He witnessed the atrocities, then he came home, testified before Congress, met Jane Fonda, and is proclaimed a hero by Jane Fonda. To me a hero would have done something to try to stop them, rather than let them go on, then come back and use them to make himself look bigger than he is. "

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/dai...tor.guest.html

lol, now your quoting Rush Limbaugh? If you want to try to appear the least bit credible, you should really find a more reputable source than hydrocodone Rush.

About this photograph. The Viet Cong flag was added as a back drop to J.F. Kerry to symbolize the aid and comfort he gave Vietnam's "revolutionary Communists" with his high profile participation in Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW) demonstrations.

As a key VVAW leader, organizer and spokesman, Kerry marched in demonstrations where there was a clear presence and "abundance of Vietcong flags, clenched fists raised in the air, and placards plainly bearing legends in support of China, Cuba, the USSR, North Korea and the Hanoi government."
Kerry was a vocal supporter of the "People's Peace Treaty," a supposed "people's" declaration to end the war, reportedly drawn up in communist East Germany. It included nine points, all of which were taken from Viet Cong (Vietnamese Communist) peace proposals at the Paris Peace Talks as conditions for a United States retreat from the Vietnam War.


This communist Vietnamese flag fits Kerry well.

it was much more than merely an "outdoor event." it was the 1970 valley forge protest that turned kerry into an anti-war star.




Candidate Teamed Up With 'Hanoi' Jane Fonda

On Labor Day weekend 1970, Kerry - then a rising star with Vietnam Veteran Against the War - teamed up with Fonda as the two headlined an ugly anti-war in rally in Valley Forge, Pa., railing against U.S. policy in Southeast Asia from the back of the same flatbed truck.

The photo shows "Hanoi Jane" listening raptly as speakers denounced American soldiers for committing "genocide" in Vietnam and accusing the U.S. of "international racism."

Three rows behind 'Hanoi Jane" sits a man who bears a striking resemblance to the Democratic presidential front-runner.

According to Corbis Images, which owns the image, the photo was taken at the same 1970 Valley Forge protest that turned Sen. Kerry into an anti-war star.

Douglas Brinkley's biography "Tour of Duty" chronicles Kerry's exploits at Valley Forge, where he reportedly followed Fonda onto the back of that pick-up truck to deliver his own diatribe against the war in Vietnam.

"We are here because we above all others have earned the right to criticize the war on Southeast Asia," Kerry shouted into the microphone, as Fonda and the crowd cheered wildly.

"By the time [Kerry] hopped off that pick-up truck to thunderous applause," writes Brinkley, "he was the new leader of the VVAW by popular default."

The Massachusetts Democrat's speech also cemented his alliance with Fonda, and the two traveled to Detroit to organize a January 1971 event they called the "Winter Soldier Investigation."

At a Detroit motel, Kerry and Fonda assembled a myriad of disgruntled witnesses claiming to be Vietnam vets, each with his own story of American atrocities.

According to Jug Burkett, whose landmark Vietnam war history "Stolen Valor" chronicles some of Kerry's anti-war misadventures, Fonda played a key role at the Detroit event.

"There's no doubt that Jane Fonda financed the Winter Soldier hearings," Burkett told NewsMax on Monday.

He said that several of the witnesses who testified at the protest's "hearings" later turned out to be complete impostors.

The event prompted "Hanoi Jane" to "adopt" Kerry's group "as her leading cause," writes Brinkley. It was at Kerry's Winter Soldier protest that the anti-American actress met her future husband, Students for a Democratic Society radical Tom Hayden.

The next year Fonda was off to Hanoi, where she mounted an anti-aircraft battery and pretended to shoot down American pilots.

Of Kerry, Burkett told NewsMax, "Any Vietnam veteran who knows what Kerry did after he came home from Vietnam is definitely not a fan of John Kerry."

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2...9/134218.shtml

cartoons sinner? wow, you're off the deep end now. (quick, somebody draw a swastika behind bush to prove he's a fascist! he supported the patriot act, "reportedly" drawn up by hitler and mussolini in paris in 1940.) "aid and comfort to the enemy"? you mean bush of course, he's the one who wouldn't fight them.



scoobs, i know the concept is difficult for you but try to digest this anyway:

your picture was taken BEFORE fonda went to vietnam. years before.

- js.

since you termed that picture simply an "outdoor event"...it is you who fails to grasp the concept. did you even read what happened at that protest? you shouldn't have even needed to read it. if you studied history..you would already know what happened.

and..the picture was taken one year before fonda went to hanoi.

bush never marched against america under the communist flag.

kerry voted to approve the patriot act.

2 years scoob.

but more importantly, the sunset provisions.

- js.

"Since Democrats often think that nobody remembers anything, or saves old news clippings, here's one from 1998 about the Donkey Frontrunner John Kerry...."

Kerry Rewind


WASHINGTON - Dec 16 – 1998 (AFP)

US forces in the Gulf could strike Iraq "in short order," Senator John Kerry told reporters Wednesday, adding that military action was "quite likely." The US military will "be able to take action in short order," he said after being briefed at the White House, adding "a day of reckoning with (Iraqi President) Saddam Hussein is inevitable." Kerry, who sits on the Senate foreign relations and select intelligence committees, added that it was time "to hold him accountable with the use of military force."

In a bid to deflect charges that President Bill Clinton's impeachment woes were driving US policy, Kerry said "Saddam Hussein is responsible for the coincidence, Saddam Hussein is responsible for the timing." "He has toyed with the United Nations, the United States and its allies and UNSCOM," the UN agency charged with dismantling Iraq's weapons of mass destruction, said Kerry. "Reasonable people, those who have been following (the evolving crisis) cannot question the legitimacy of this moment" he stressed, adding "this has nothing to do with impeachment."


Clinton Rewind

Here’s one more, from the “good thing we saved the newspaper article” file.

Bill Clinton in 1998 on Saddam Hussein and WMD. “"What if [Saddam] fails to comply and we fail to act, or we take some ambiguous third route which gives him yet more opportunities to develop this program of weapons of mass destruction? Well, he will conclude that the international community has lost its will. He will then conclude that he can go right on and do more to rebuild an arsenal of devastating destruction. And someday, some way, I guarantee you, he'll use that arsenal."

Kerry vs. Kerry
Rich Lowry

MANCHESTER, N.H. -- John Kerry has surged into first place here, proving his oft-repeated contention that he is a "good closer." Kerry has long said that he is a great fighter. If he completes his miraculous comeback to win the Democratic nomination, he will indeed have the fight of his life on his hands -- against his own legislative record.

Kerry, of course, has struggled with his vote in 2002 to authorize the Iraq War. "We did not empower the president to do regime change," Kerry said of the resolution on "Meet the Press" last summer. Actually, the Kerry-supported resolution specifically cited regime change as a goal, and Kerry also voted to make regime change U.S. policy in 1998. That's two Kerry votes in favor of regime change, but who's counting? The Massachusetts senator has similar trouble with other prior votes, making him the first candidate in U.S. history to run a presidential campaign against himself.

Today's Kerry excoriates Attorney General John Ashcroft for violating American civil liberties with his evil tool, the Patriot Act. "We are a nation of laws and liberties, not of a knock in the night," Kerry huffs. "So it is time to end the era of John Ashcroft. That starts with replacing the Patriot Act with a new law that protects our people and our liberties at the same time." Maybe Kerry should have thought about that before voting for the Patriot Act in 2001 -- since laws and liberties are pretty important and all.

Back before he had to worry about competing with one Howard Brush Dean, Kerry was positively delighted by the Patriot Act. "It reflects," he said on the Senate floor, "an enormous amount of hard work by the members of the Senate Banking Committee and the Senate Judiciary Committee. I congratulate them and thank them for that work." While supportive of "sunset" provisions in the bill, Kerry pronounced himself "pleased at the compromise we have reached on the anti-terrorism legislation." These are not the words of a man about to help inaugurate an era of brown-shirt law enforcement.

John Kerry, A.D. (After Dean), attacks President Bush's No Child Left Behind Act as "one-size-fits-all testing mania." Worse, according to Kerry, "By signing the No Child Left Behind Act and then breaking his promise by not giving schools the resources to help meet new standards, George Bush has undermined public education and left millions of children behind." The funding charge is a canard -- overall spending on education under Bush is up 65 percent -- but it gives Kerry a way to join the Dean-led assault on the act, which he voted for -- enthusiastically.

"This is groundbreaking legislation," John Kerry, B.D. (Before Dean), gushed on the Senate floor, "that enhances the federal government's commitment to our nation's public education system ... and embraces many of the principles and programs that I believe are critical to improving the public education system." He didn't just support the bill, he took credit for it: "Last year I worked with 10 of my Democratic colleagues to introduce legislation that would help break the stalemate and move beyond the tired, partisan debates of the past. Our education proposal became the foundation of the bill before us today."

As for the North American Free Trade Agreement, the target of Dean and other liberal critics, Kerry promises to "fix it." The agreement supposedly doesn't do enough to keep Mexico from employing low-wage workers, thus encouraging jobs to leave the United States and depressing wages here. True to form, he used to love the trade deal. "NAFTA is not the problem," he explained in 1993. "Job loss is taking place without NAFTA."

And so, if the senator grabs his party's nomination, it will make for the fight of the century, a brawl to the finish -- Kerry vs. Kerry. No wonder he wants to get himself out of the Senate. By his own lights, Kerry's votes there were simply too dangerous and shortsighted for the nation to tolerate any longer.

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