Israelis open fire on crowds in Gaza
The Israeli army has opened fire on a crowd of Palestinian demonstrators in the town of Rafah in southern Gaza.
At least 10 people were killed, though some reports put the number of casualties higher. Several children were among the dead, and more than 50 people were injured, many seriously, Palestinian medical workers said. Thousands of people were demonstrating against a massive Israeli operation in the refugee camp on the edge of Rafah. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3728681.stm Amnesty Urges Spain To Halt Arms Sale To Israel Few hours after Amnesty International urged his government to stop arms sale to Israel, Prime Minister Luis Rodriguez Zapatero and his Palestinian counterpart Ahmad Qorei condemned Wednesday, May 19, Israeli military operations in the Gaza Strip. "Peace requires an immediate ceasefire," the leaders said in turn at a press conference after an Israeli airstrike killed at least 10 Palestinians in Rafah, reported Agence France-Presse (AFP). Zapatero lambasted Israel for embarking on actions that would lead down "a negative path for peace." "Peace requires a ceasefire, respecting the roadmap and this is what the Spanish government is calling for and what the international community wants," he said. Qorei, for his part, accused the Israeli government of not wanting a peace settlement in the region. "These crimes which are being committed against our people on a daily basis ...show that that there is no desire for peace on the part of the Israeli government," he said. http://www.turks.us/article.php?story=20040519091617733 |
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This war will never stop until there's is no plaestinians or israelies left alive:( This was always a no win situation and israel will not stop until there is no palestinians left or until their US funds runs out. The palestinians will never give up until they are all dead or until the US funds runs out. It truly is a no win situation:( |
first of all, they didn't intentionally fire at people. a tank crew shot 4 shells from the back at a building where 4 terrorists were seen hiding and apparently one of the shells or parts of it hit in the middle in the crowd. the western and arab press made it sound as though it was a deliberate act and it wasn't. the palestinian bullshit patrol immediately took over the scene, saying to the worldwide press that at least 30 people were killed. israel said only 7. today a palestinian doctor finally revised the count which agrees with the israeli claim.
second, the reason why this operation is taking place is because palestinian terrorist groups have received a shipment of anti-tank missiles and katyusha rockets waiting for pickup in egypt, which they were planning on smuggling through the tunnels in rafah. these weapons can hit major israeli cities if launched from gaza. israel advised the palestinian authority about this and arafat refused to act. so once again israel has to take self defense action, which it is fully entitled to under international law, to prevent terrorists from targeting israeli cities with sophisticated weapons. |
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The report of 30 killed was from the previous attack which is what sparked the protest. more Israeli forces fired tank shells into a peaceful Palestinian protest during the ongoing assault on Rafah refugee camp yesterday, killing at least 10 people - mostly children - and critically wounding many others. The army described the incident as "very grave", claimed it had only fired "warning shots" and said there was no intention to harm civilians. But it attempted to shift responsibility for the carnage to the several thousand demonstrators by saying some were armed. However, no weapons were visible as the crowd walked through the heart of Rafah trailed by children. Witnesses described seeing children soaked in blood and men with their intestines hanging out. The dead included 12-year-old Waleed Abo Kamir, Mahmoud Mansour, 13, and Mobark Hasbash, 15. Doctors said that four other bodies brought to the morgue and not immediately identified appeared to be teenagers. The Israeli army has killed 33 Palestinians in Rafah over the past two days, some of the highest casualties of the present intifada. More than half of the dead are civilians and at least seven of them children. more |
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ffs their preists actualy say shit like that , man that is just plain backward.. fucn worse than witch doctors.. burn those women and children they have the spirit of evil in them.. least there is a small minority in israel willing to speak out at this kind of attitude.. |
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most idiotic post ever. |
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oh, and your fucking "tard gif" says it all. wanna insult ppl squid? then don't be a pussy about it and do it right :f: |
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I can only find reports putting the death toll for the protest march at between 7 and 10.... Maybe you have a link to your 'media worldwide' sources? Quote:
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As for the media refusing to appear in the doco.....given the past treatment of journalists by Israelis they may just have felt it in their best interests not to comment....who knows.... |
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Again.....the reports of '500 deaths' were largely reported as 'alleged by Palestinians' as opposed to being reported as hard cold fact.......and again this could possibly have been avoided had journalists had access to the site. Quote:
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Agenda item 5 Illegal Israeli actions in Occupied East Jerusalem and the rest of the Occupied Palestinian Territory Report of the Secretary-General prepared pursuant to General Assembly resolution ES-10/10 This report was prepared on the basis of General Assembly resolution ES-10/10, adopted on 7 May 2002, in which the Assembly requested the Secretary-General to present a report, drawing upon the available resources and information, on the recent events that took place in Jenin and other Palestinian cities. The General Assembly requested the report following the disbandment of the United Nations fact-finding team that had been convened by the Secretary-General in response to Security Council resolution 1405 (2002) (2002) of 19 April 2002. The report was written without a visit to Jenin or the other Palestinian cities in question and it therefore relies completely on available resources and information, including submissions from five United Nations Member States and Observer Missions, documents in the public domain and papers submitted by non-governmental organizations. The Under-Secretary-General for Political Affairs wrote to the Permanent Representative of Israel and the Permanent Observer of Palestine to the United Nations requesting them to submit information but only the latter did so. In the absence of a response from Israel, the United Nations has relied on public statements of Israeli officials and publicly available documents of the Government of Israel relevant to the request in resolution ES-10/10. Quote:
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a few examples of what the press printed: - "We are talking here of massacre, and a cover-up, of genocide..." (london evening standard) - "Rarely, in more than a decade of war reporting from Bosnia, Chechnya, Sierra Leone, Kosovo, have I seen such deliberate destruction, such disrespect for human life." (london times) - "Israel's actions in Jenin were every bit as repellent as Osama Bin Laden's attack on New York on September 11." (the guardian) - "I personally saw 30 Palestinian corpses at the hospital on April the 20th, and with dozens of other foreign reporters, watched them being buried at a mass grave just up the road from the hospital... Just as in Tiananmen Square, the power of the gun and the tank ensured there was no proper body count or accounting. Just as happened in Tiananmen Square, the uninformed and those with their own agenda, are now claiming there was no massacre. There was a massacre, a considerable number of human beings were indiscriminately and unnecessarily slaughtered..." (peter cave, australia's ABC) the story was never proved as no mass graves were found, and if reporters like peter cave really wanted to provide their viewers with impartial coverage they could have went to abu kabir to check on the corpses of the 30 israeli civilians who were blown to pieces on the eve of passover just two weeks earlier. THAT he'll actually find. but of course he and literally everybody else had no intentions of doing so. all this rhetoric from the media proves beyond doubt that not only the reports about what happened in jenin were flawed and biased, but most of them were not based on information coming out of the PA so you can't say the press was saying what the palestinians were alleging. these were all fabricated lies that were brought upon by the media's perception of the palestinians as victims du jour and the israelis as the aggressors. Quote:
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Was this story false too????....I don't think so.....
Israeli bulldozer kills American protester Israeli bulldozer runs over 23-year-old woman Tuesday, March 25, 2003 Posted: 4:19 PM EST (2119 GMT) RAFAH, Gaza (CNN) -- An Israeli bulldozer killed an American woman Sunday who had been protesting its use to destroy Palestinian houses in Rafah. http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/03/16/rafah.death/ |
Score one for Israel, yeah! :wave:
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Bunch of bloody murderers. The soldiers who did this never faced trial.link |
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and the soldier who ran her over shouldn't face any charges either. he didn't know she was there. and besides, nobody told her to get in front of the bulldozer. she proved nothing except that she's a terrorist sympatizer. a few days after she was killed pictures of her surfaced in a hamas rally burning american and israeli flags. the houses she tried to prevent the demolition of had a tunnel running underneath to smuggle weapons, weapons that are used to murder innocent israelis like tali hatuel and her four children who were shot to death in their car with rifles that probably made their way into gaza through such tunnels. |
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Is the punishment for displaying your opinion harmlessly 'death by dozer' ? Quote:
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Just to say that she prolly had more guts in her little finger than any of us ever will. |
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two things occur: 1. The Israelis stop indoctrinating their youth with the idea the goi are all animals who have not even the right to life ect... 2. The Palestinians stop indoctrinating their youth that Israel has no right to exist as a state. Also: Both parties are being manipulated by outside forces against their own best interests. Nuff said there... And: It just goes to show you that "Religion" per se was the most wicked thing ever devised by anybody. All of them. Damn them all to Hell! Makes me want to chuck it all for a fallout shelter in the Rockies. I don't get you pisser, I think you need to do some real soul searching to find out why you have such a depraved disregard for others. |
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