ok i uninstalled the version i got from sourceforge and i dl'd the version i found the link to in this thread... version 1.1 and my new key is:


WASTE_PUBLIC_KEY 20 1536 towndrunk
D16211CFD4B57B686D9478FF0D245CC16C6E9D41987151966A03226C046C
4C6FF63384F17299312DEF9B95FFE81789B29B805AF0A4DB60238ABDE810
A5F99EDC7F39CFBE5302B663724037F6AFE7EDF45F791161D42789FB4160
931029CF0620ECFD09FB2946C118601544CF956095886F90CA5B22C439BA
3055C51B9EE1EA2E1744FBEC8127A980CBBAE5656E0EFB9B193F097B1614
304EE1FBF4B0B2B073820EDA8A86C3B858A4EDE43FA4FF1183170EEF6A20
73359025A22677F6826962770003010001
WASTE_PUBLIC_KEY_END

ip and all is still the same...
hope this works

your key's been added. welcome to the forum mr. drunk! :beer:

- js.

i'll be off the mesh friday. see you back here monday. :W:

- js.

Jack Importanted Message for you, Left it on your waste
 

Read it fool!

:MrT:

while no peer-to-peer product is perfect we feel waste provides a level of secure service unmatched by rivals. we're glad to see developers' continuing interest in waste and look forward to experiencing your future improvements.

- js.

HELP
 

I need help getting winmx back. i downloaded a song while i was connecting, so i know something is wrong here. i run xp, and i have version 3.53. what is up with this?

http://www.p2p-zone.com/underground/...ad.php?t=21985
try the same question in that thread
after reading it..:W:

NorthShare [add me to mesh, please]
 

Would like to join the zer0share mesh.

Would like email confirmation once I'm added, and at least several IPs that are currently maintaining the network so I can try to connect until I find one that is online. Will anyone who reads this and is actively supporting this project please add me? I'd like to connect soon, not next month . .

Scoured the internet a long time to find this . . . hope it works.

BTW I'm on dialup, and it's not my computer so I can't leave it on and maintain a dynDNS.

Thanks.

WASTE_PUBLIC_KEY 20 1536 northshare
BDCE2383ED4E2EAFCDA030DFB2088C773A52247FF9D328C2E96CCA168B74
DD02D6941E4BDD8F2B3DE1D27425171A879512474A3389794D8B312DFA11
3CE0F27A517BFB214D5382A0A154893FB906DDD3302276F1D2D501F113AB
76822C277177B4BDF0ABAF2D01058B6FCBC5A8384213FA99EF8423E87DE1
FAEC1A46A77678187C26486F7961DFFDAE863E042A0F5404EC3FAA58AD51
370EA6744B703E5055F0F4DC73A96D30C0BB62FD2ABE7C6BFF0332FEB937
FFE5640A9CC07C35FC873A890003010001
WASTE_PUBLIC_KEY_END

welcome to the forum northshare and to this little experiment. you key has been added and as long as you're using an original "legacy" client you'll have the ability to connect. keep in mind not every attempt is successfull at first, so don't be discouraged if you don't get on immediately.

check your p2p-zone pm for the latest ip that will be active for the next 48 hours, then c&p it directly to the waste network status bar.

- js.

:bdance: This is the key I have for you, booby:

WASTE_PUBLIC_KEY 20 1536 Centauri
CC4C862D2B9D3418FF3C716D74D383D822079E8723613C474FD2F8243C3F
A6A3F9B4B1E7AA6DD810C56D11AA5F5E1A9D7353B7826E466BBD07ED3E0C
5F07F6E279307D9D8B75844DBC4B913A7B23C017ACC57D5560E57235684B
CD3A7834B5EA91BC46183D849E8DAD8553963D942886C0E49D1970F38539
218D030A809E9DF0C88703790EA8CB7976570C03F6E17759E095EE66DD0B
638463E0EA4F5778CE230A59B5EF06656777BF91DD7E85C1A364EAA5924E
493D72B52082A4FDC895032D0003010001
WASTE_PUBLIC_KEY_END

welcome booby, you're added. :tu:

- js.

hi :W:

edit: sry wrong key :EB: :EB:

My key is:

WASTE_PUBLIC_KEY 20 1536 lokki
YD849A75746B3D9D907356B0C6968A9096B7359E27E49E7110DD76EF702F
915452796B8B694DB92F282326463CD991D48EE7750C19DDE30AF915A85C
7692BAF43E665FF806319A86ED1AC5E395917F81A4772FE85D083B9B900E
08F71C0A9A2833BCA09EA3E6F34117145470E939861A1A5E578F5C9A871C
82D3AC3FC69458F992C52E98EE76A09919E32800E1A67299A7B9849187AC
5A139CE0AD210FE7663E16F4A9E9CF71FD341BB0BE20DFDDA292FFA52B92
1S43EBDF4202A94EB50E3F8F0003010008
WASTE_PUBLIC_KEY_END

______________

www.emule-mods.cc

sorry loki - client unable to load key.

which version are you using? for the zer0share mesh it as to be pre v1.4 or the original (frankel legacy) version.

btw, welcome! :beer:

- js.

WASTE_PUBLIC_KEY 20 1536 Hooah
BBE4FEE6FD0A4CFA026EA5C4ADA8B1EF17B5B6A4B52E88CDF1AF8ABFED2A
A7CE4FB73CC66D5250E4208575537BE67D157F94E57490D12930DA0D1A95
A5E7C13E1C778F169368F626D26B1A8DD031A01277B1B4387EE22A2C41E1
6564D8B81DFBF6E8F95E1A90B8ABC9C32D9D998052AB19BA0711ABAB6C45
FA964707F17A6C78A2674B13365081A5E7570DA14CDF7668C4CEB54A099C
7A1E95B20194229B044CAA4619C2FFDF0FB301A4440BEE1932F22ECA67AD
DE0938A221B2C983C0156F050003010001
WASTE_PUBLIC_KEY_END

need bootstraping?



added Hooah


WASTE_PUBLIC_KEY 20 1536 Defacto
C81354143B2F9B9F8B599814EBBF5D506ED1F6BA4C1E1ED34CB723CFB56A
0022842D978EF4B99F67B909292EEDF5555A5A7E6C2ECCDA4918700C51DA
7FBB02819EFCA6797A713D6777101EE5722921A874DC44FBD374701C6291
D106ED2987BACE8658C47A6DEDCB9BB3D1246A91B89CFFA476E158FA3645
AAC2E7DB6D1712B274DE78FF799E89268506BFC7012CB0ED48B24C80164C
8A5EFA6264649BCE8FA2B428BECF7C23BE37F77B8AC346D1058842C9691C
9719CC21CD103963EBE9F47F0003010001
WASTE_PUBLIC_KEY_END

i can see you on the mesh. welcome back defacto! :beer:

- js.

OFF System Development

Have Nothing. Pwn Everything.

Brightnets vs. Darknets

The Owner-Free Filing system has often been described as the first brightnet; A distributed system where no one breaks the law, so no one need hide in the dark.

OFF is a highly connected peer-to-peer distributed file system. The unique feature of this system is that it stores all of its internal data in a multi-use randomized block format. In other words there is not a one to one mapping between a stored block and its use in a retrieved file. Each stored block is simultaneously used as a part of many different files. Individually, however, each block is nothing but arbitrary digital white noise.

Owner-Free refers both to the fact that nobody owns the system as a whole and nobody can own any of the data blocks stored in the system. The latter claim is explained below and supported in the linked works.

Owner-less Data

It seems highly unlikely to most people that the same exact data can be used to represent several things at once. But indeed, the same digital representation can be, “both a floor wax and a dessert topping.”

The misperception is simply a relic of computer metaphors that obfuscate an important reality of the digital world. Traditional rules do not apply. Mathematics is the only law.

Curiously, mathematics says:

1. There are an infinite numbers of ways to digitally represent any given work.
2. Every digital representation can be used to perceive as an infinite number of works.

The OFF System simply chooses one of the infinite ways that is non-copyrightable. There must be at least one, or else every possible digital representation would already be copyrighted. It just so happens that the same representation is already being used for other things.

A simple description of the process is available on this site. http://offsystem.sourceforge.net/wordpress/?page_id=4 A more extensive treatment is done in the paper, “On copyrightable numbers with an application to the Gesetzklageproblem” http://offsystem.info/CopyNumbCJ.pdf

Copyright

No creative works, copyrighted or not, are ever communicated between OFF peers. Only meaningless blocks of random data. No tangible copies of creative works are ever stored on OFF peers. It is completely unnecessary.

All retrieval of creative works is done exclusively on the users local machine. More importantly, no copies of a creative work ever NEED to be made. All works can be accessed in-place and on-demand by locally resident software in the same way that traditional file servers are used.

All storage of creative works is done exclusively on the users local machine. Uniquely, only a single virtual copy of the creative work is made directly into OFF virtual file system. That is all that is EVER needed. As with a traditional file server, that single copy is completely private. It is accessible only through the URL possessed by person who stored the work. Again this appears legally equivalent to making a single copy to your personal disk or server.

Should the person who stored the work want to allow access to others, he simply gives them the URL. The receiver can then access the work in-place without needing to make a copy. This is identical to the way that iTunes allows friends to play each others music via streaming without copying.

We call the OFF System a “Brightnet”. No secrecy is needed as nothing shady is going on.

———————

Footnote: This work builds on previous technology pioneered by David Madore in his paper, “Method of free speech on the Internet: random pads”
http://www.eleves.ens.fr:8080/home/m...reespeech.html
http://offsystem.sourceforge.net/wordpress/?page_id=13

That's sweet jack! Let's try it out.

sounds like a plan! :tu:

- js.

Eh, having reviewed the developers website I don't think an actual file sharing program has been implimented. So far what they've got is an implimentation that creates a local OFF cache. This could be used, for example, to create a file system that stores random blocks of data in place of copyright infringing files. You can insert blocks into that cache to "depreciate" files and retrieve blocks to reconstruct files, but the cache itself isn't yet distributable. Simply put, you can OFF a file and create a link to that file and share the link with other people, but since they don't have access to your cache the link will be useless.

I'd love to give this a try, and after I download their beta and try it out I'll see if we can't use it to share files, but in its current state it's not looking like a WASTE replacement. Though once they figure it out it could probably replace Freenet and revolutionize binary news groups in one fell swoop.