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multi 16-01-05 05:57 PM

“Death-Squad Democracy”
 
What to do about the deepening quagmire of Iraq? The Pentagon’s latest approach is being called "the Salvador option"—and the fact that it is being discussed at all is a measure of just how worried Donald Rumsfeld really is. "What everyone agrees is that we can’t just go on as we are," one senior military officer told NEWSWEEK. "We have to find a way to take the offensive against the insurgents. Right now, we are playing defense. And we are losing." Last November’s operation in Fallujah, most analysts agree, succeeded less in breaking "the back" of the insurgency—as Marine Gen. John Sattler optimistically declared at the time—than in spreading it out.


Now, NEWSWEEK has learned, the Pentagon is intensively debating an option that dates back to a still-secret strategy in the Reagan administration’s battle against the leftist guerrilla insurgency in El Salvador in the early 1980s. Then, faced with a losing war against Salvadoran rebels, the U.S. government funded or supported "nationalist" forces that allegedly included so-called death squads directed to hunt down and kill rebel leaders and sympathizers. Eventually the insurgency was quelled, and many U.S. conservatives consider the policy to have been a success—despite the deaths of innocent civilians and the subsequent Iran-Contra arms-for-hostages scandal. (Among the current administration officials who dealt with Central America back then is John Negroponte, who is today the U.S. ambassador to Iraq. Under Reagan, he was ambassador to Honduras. There is no evidence, however, that Negroponte knew anything about the Salvadoran death squads or the Iran-Contra scandal at the time. The Iraq ambassador, in a phone call to NEWSWEEK on Jan. 10, said he was not involved in military strategy in Iraq. He called the insertion of his name into this report "utterly gratuitous.") more..

theknife 16-01-05 07:52 PM

the only parallel between iraq and el salvador is the fact that they are both populated by brown-skinned people who don't always do what the us wants them to do.

JackSpratts 16-01-05 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by theknife
the only parallel between iraq and el salvador is the fact that they are both populated by brown-skinned people who don't always do what the us wants them to do.

that and the right can't seem to kill enough of them.

- js.

albed 16-01-05 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theknife
the only parallel between iraq and el salvador is the fact that they are both populated by brown-skinned people who don't always do what the us wants them to do.

Not even the pretense of a liberal vs conservative conflict anymore; just straight anti-US propaganda. How can you stand to live in this evil country knife?

I hear there's good surfing in South Africa along with some interesting marine life.

Best avoid excessive sun exposure though, you don't want to become a 'brown skinned people'.

multi 17-01-05 02:13 AM

Quote:

Not even the pretense of a liberal vs conservative conflict anymore; just straight anti-US propaganda.
boo-fucking-hoo..always whinging about something...
those damn unamerican nbc
lefties...
:rofl4:
Quote:

Also being debated is which agency within the U.S. government—the Defense department or CIA—would take responsibility for such an operation.
wouldn't they use CIA ?..they did such a good job in cambodia and vietnam in the 50's and 60's...

no simalarities there either...:PO:

in the mideast i guess,to be fair
russians have also done their fair share of arming and training a region in the use of modern weapons...

do you really think in 200 years people will not look at the whole post world warII era
and see that the US had gone from one poor country to another..arming training and always followed up with the inevitable conflict and coke machine in every gas/rail station..
then again..
its quite possible that in 200 years:
a. the planet is unhabitable
b.history had been completely rewitten several times
c. they wish that more people had of perished in these conflicts so the world would be a little less crowded..

Nicobie 17-01-05 07:04 PM

U said it, not me...
 
c. they wish that more people had of perished in these conflicts so the world would be a little less crowded..


again, "Sad but true".

Nicobie 20-01-05 07:47 PM

I'm gonna take a chance and ask here, if anybody... ever
 
has thought about using 'snail mail' to send disc's that are choc full of files to each other?

The blank media costs squat.

Risk facter is almost nil.


I'd sure like to .. ;)

theknife 20-01-05 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by albed
Not even the pretense of a liberal vs conservative conflict anymore; just straight anti-US propaganda. How can you stand to live in this evil country knife?

Not even the pretense of liberal vs conservative conflict anymore; just straight troll propaganda. How can you stand to post in this forum, albed?

albed 20-01-05 09:12 PM

Have to counter the anti-American propaganda parrots.

Why don't you move in with multi so you can squawk to each other and get stoned together.

Ramona_A_Stone 20-01-05 09:19 PM

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The Pentagon’s latest approach is being called "the Salvador option"—
Oh. El Salvador. I was sure that meant they were patterning their approach after Salvador Dali.

:knight:

multi 20-01-05 09:44 PM

Squawk !
 
no one is worried about the US....
of course you dont make yourself the center of attention...:)
then when anyone looks too close and picks out a few things that are very wrong and obviously corrupt with all the rampant right wing fucktards..they automaticly become anti-American...what time last year was it you got on the internet albed ?
maybe you better stick to non-international forums...
or ones run by yanks...

when i post i fly no flag exept :hflag: <-this one..

on a side note:
is the US about
to back an israeli attack on iran ?
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satelli...=1106191078164

Nicobie 21-01-05 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicobie
has thought about using 'snail mail' to send disc's that are choc full of files to each other?

The blank media costs squat.

Risk facter is almost nil.


I'd sure like to .. ;)



Hahahahahahahahaa ;)

multi 22-01-05 12:11 AM

nic...its not such a bad idea just slighly out of context in this thread maybe
;)

Nicobie 22-01-05 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by multi
nic...its not such a bad idea just slighly out of context in this thread maybe
;)

hehe...

I know. That's why I did it.


come on now... "Death Squad Democracy?"

:dunno:

multi 22-01-05 10:13 PM

[clone]"Death Squad Democracy?"[/clone]

what ?

:rofl2:


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