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greedy_lars 30-10-03 06:31 PM

Operation OIL - The Week In Review - October 31st, '03
 
Mushroom clouds...

Iraq 'shelved nuclear plans'

By Jon Leyne

Iraq's nuclear programme may have been disbanded in 1991. New evidence acquired by the Washington Post newspaper suggests that Iraq made no attempt to restart its nuclear programme following the first Gulf War in 1991. It follows the report presented by the weapons inspector David Kay earlier this month who admitted they had not found any weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. The information obtained by the newspaper suggests there is no evidence of any renewed nuclear programme in Iraq in the last 12 years. Perhaps even more seriously, the evidence suggests that the Bush administration did not take its own warnings very seriously either.

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U.S. Postwar Death Toll in Iraq Hits New Milestone
Wed Oct 29, 8:26 AM ET

By Alistair Lyon

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - The U.S. postwar combat death toll in Iraq climbed past the number of soldiers killed during the invasion when the U.S. military said Wednesday it had lost two more dead in a roadside bomb north of Baghdad.

Their deaths brought to 116 the number of U.S. troops killed in hostilities since President Bush declared major combat over on May 1, surpassing the 115 killed in the war launched on March 20 to topple Saddam Hussein.

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Nations back off sending troops

By Tom Squitieri

Bangladesh and Portugal won't deploy forces to Iraq; decision is postponed in South Korea
WASHINGTON -- Bangladesh and Portugal, two nations the Pentagon has pressed to send combat troops to Iraq, have decided against contributing to the U.S.-led force there. A third nation that once promised to send troops, South Korea, says it has not made up its mind and has delayed a decision pending further study.
Turkey has agreed to send 10,000 troops but is waiting to hear from the Pentagon when and where they should go. U.S. officials have delayed discussing specifics with Turkey because of opposition to the Turkish deployment from Kurds who live in northern Iraq. Turkish officials say their offer will stand for a year but that none of its forces will be deployed unless the Pentagon gets public assurances of support from the Kurds.

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"thousands and thousands"

Private study estimates Iraqi war dead at 13,000

WASHINGTON (AFP) - An estimated 13,000 Iraqis, including as many as 4,300 non-combatants, were killed during the major combat phase of the war in Iraq, a research group found in a study.

The Project on Defense Alternatives said its estimate was based on a review of US combat data, battlefield press reports, and Iraqi hospital surveys. The study covered the period from March 19 to the end of April.


The Pentagon has refrained from making estimates of Iraqi dead in either the 1991 Gulf War or the latest conflict.


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White House pressed on 'mission accomplished' sign

Navy suggested it, White House made it, both sides say

From Dana Bash


Wednesday, October 29, 2003

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- What was once viewed as a premier presidential photo op continues to dog President Bush six months after he landed on an aircraft carrier to declare "one victory" in the war on terrorism and an end to major combat operations in Iraq.

Attention turned Tuesday to a giant "Mission Accomplished" sign that stood behind Bush aboard the USS Abraham Lincoln when he gave the speech May 1.

The president told reporters the sign was put up by the Navy, not the White House.

"I know it was attributed somehow to some ingenious advance man from my staff -- they weren't that ingenious, by the way," the president said Tuesday.



President Bush addresses the nation from aboard the USS Abraham Lincoln on May 1 with the banner in the background.

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Congress Nixes Extra Pay for Some Troops
Wed Oct 29, 2:34 AM ET

By KEN GUGGENHEIM,

WASHINGTON - House-Senate negotiators considering an $87 billion package for Iraq and Afghanistan have rejected a Democratic proposal to compensate federal employees on active duty with the National Guard and reserves.

The proposal by Sen. Dick Durbin, D-Ill., would have made up the differences between the workers' regular salaries and their service incomes, as many states and private employers are already doing. He said 23,000 federal employees would be affected.

The Senate had included the provision in its version of the Iraq spending bill, but senators in the conference agreed to eliminate it Tuesday in a 16-13 vote that was mainly along party lines.

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Reps: U.S. Overpaying Halliburton for Gas
Wed Oct 29, 7:24 PM ET

By Susan Cornwell

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. government is paying Vice President Dick Cheney's former firm Halliburton "enormous sums" -- $2.65 a gallon -- for gasoline imported into Iraq from Kuwait, two lawmakers charged on Wednesday.

Democrats Rep. Henry Waxman of California and Rep. John Dingell of Michigan said this gross overpayment was made worse by the fact that the U.S. government was turning around and reselling the gasoline in Iraq for four to 15 cents a gallon.

In a letter of complaint sent to President Bush's national security adviser Condoleezza Rice , the two lawmakers said experts they consulted think the cost of buying and transporting gasoline from Kuwait into Iraq should cost less than $1 a gallon.

The Iraqi oil company SOMO is paying only 97 cents a gallon to import gasoline from Kuwait to Iraq, they said.

Waxman added in a statement: "We know that someone is getting rich importing gasoline into Iraq. What we don't know is who is making the money, Halliburton or the Kuwaitis?"

Halliburton subsidiary Kellogg Brown & Root, which defends its pricing as fair, has a contract with the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers to rebuild Iraq's oil sector. This has included importing oil products in short supply as the oil-rich nation's refineries are brought back into production.

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Halliburton Contract Extended in Iraq
Wed Oct 29, 6:28 PM ET

By LARRY MARGASAK

WASHINGTON - Vice President Dick Cheney's former company will retain a no-bid contract in Iraq longer than expected, the Bush administration said Wednesday, blaming sabotage of oil facilities for delays in replacement contracts.

Halliburton's contract, worth $1.59 billion so far, will be extended until December or January while the government receives and evaluates revised bids for replacement work that could total $2 billion.

The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, which administers the oil industry rehabilitation, already has received competitive bids for replacement contracts, and hoped to announce the winners this month. The Corps said it was forced to revise the workload requirements because of continued sabotage and a need to provide additional security.


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Report Says Iraq Contracts Reek of Cronyism
Thu Oct 30, 2:41 PM ET

By Sue Pleming

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Many of the U.S. firms doing billions of dollars of work in Iraq and Afghanistan have been big donors to President Bush and his Republican Party and fill their boards with political and military heavyweights, a report on Thursday said.

The report by the watchdog group, the Center for Public Integrity, said most of the 70 firms and individuals getting up to $8 billion in contracts for post-war Iraq and Afghanistan donated more to Bush's presidential campaign -- a little over $500,000 -- than any other candidate in the past decade.

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JackSpratts 30-10-03 07:20 PM

more weekend reading!

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"We know that someone is getting rich importing gasoline into Iraq. What we don't know is who is making the money, Halliburton or the Kuwaitis?"
my guess? it's a little of both. the kuwatis should be ashamed of taking advantage of our sacrifice and cheney/haliburton should just be ashamed.

well edited wir greedy. :tu:

- js.

multi 30-10-03 10:56 PM

HUFFINGTON: Got Oil?

By Arianna Huffington, AlterNet
October 21, 2002

The Bush team's ridiculous and wildly inflammatory anti-drug ads are still running in heavy rotation. You know the ads I'm talking about – the ones where innocent-looking, middle-class teens admit their culpability for the consequences of the drug trade. "I helped blow up buildings," says one doe-eyed youth.

So if that is a legitimate logic, and our president says that it is, I wonder if we might turn the tables on him by starting a little ad campaign of our own to sabotage another misguided Bush campaign: the War on Conservation.

The thought occurred to me after the startling announcement that the administration was taking precious time off from an actual, necessary war – the one on terrorism – to sue the state of California for daring to require that carmakers put more energy-efficient models on the road.

Turning the letter of the Federal Clean Air act against its clear intent, Department of Justice lawyers lined up on behalf of the administration's friends in the hydrocarbon-loving auto-manufacturing industry and argued that as long as California's cars are in compliance with the lax Federal standard, the state cannot impose a tougher one. For those keeping score, the Bush administration is in favor of states' rights when the states want to weaken federal safety standards of any kind, and against states' rights when the states want to strengthen them.

So how about using the same shock-value tactics the administration uses in the drug war to confront the public with the ultimate – and much more linearly linked – consequences of their energy wastefulness? Imagine a soccer mom in a Ford Excursion (11 mpg city, 15 mpg highway) saying, "I'm building a nuclear bomb for Saddam Hussein." Or a mob of solo drivers toodling down the freeway at 75 mph shouting in unison, "We're buying weapons that will kill American soldiers, marines, and sailors! Yahoo!"

It's not just a fantasy. Last week, talking to my friend Scott Burns, co-creator of the "Got Milk?" campaign, I was delighted to hear that he already had two ad scripts ready to go. The first one feels like an old Slim Fast commercial. Instead of "I lost 50 pounds in two weeks" the ad cuts to different people in their SUVs: "I gassed 40,000 Kurds," "I helped hijack an airplane," "I helped blow up a nightclub," and then in unison: "We did it all by driving to work in our SUVs."

The second, which opens on a man at a gas station, features a cute kid's voice-over throughout: "This is George." Then we see a close up of a gas pump. "This is the gas George buys for his car." Next we see a guy in a suit. "This is the oil company executive who makes money on the gas George buys." Close up on Al-Qaeda training film footage: "This is the terrorist organization supported by money from the country where the oil company does business. " It's followed by footage of 9/11: "We all know what this is." And it closes on a wide shot of bumper to bumper traffic: "The biggest weapon of mass destruction is parked in your driveway." Pretty effective.

Can the administration seriously deny that oil dollars do, actually, finance a spreading slick of evil in the world today? In Iraq, oil money has kept Saddam's repressive regime afloat even in the midst of tough UN sanctions. According to a report just released by the CIA, Saddam has been spending his oil money on conventional arms and weapons of mass destruction, while starving and torturing his own people.

In Saudi Arabia, our second largest foreign supplier of oil, the money you spend at the pump over here pays for a feudal monarchy that gorges itself on excess while bankrolling terrorist mischief abroad with its support of suicide bombers.

Even our close ally Kuwait, our eleventh largest oil supplier, manifests an ambivalence toward America that, if you accept the Bush administration's drug-war arguments about the validity of remote effects, resulted in this month's assassination of an American Marine on military exercises. Thank you, Exxon.

Would it be so painful for us to slow down the intravenous drip of oil that keeps these hideously anti-American regimes alive? There are car companies with electric and hybrid cars already on the market. And a little pressure on our wasteful ways could unleash a new wave of good old American inventiveness.

But instead of applying the marketing skills it uses for its wrong-headed drug war to the eminently worthwhile cause of saving energy, Bush, Inc. has sided with the Enrons of the world to stifle energy-saving technology and keep America in an artificially prolonged state of dependence.

Of course, waiting for the Bush administration to get religion on energy conservation would be about as fruitful as waiting for Saddam to welcome U.S. inspectors to his palaces. It ain't gonna happen. Unless, that is, the public makes it happen. Anyone willing to pay for a people's ad campaign to jolt our leaders into reality?


:PO:
has this woman switched sides or something i thought she was the conservatives pin up girl?

this makes too much sense to be right wing...
maybe its just more clutzy conservative mindfuck tripping over itself...

naz 30-10-03 11:18 PM

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Originally posted by multi
:PO:
has this woman switched sides or something i thought she was the conservatives pin up girl?

She's def a hottie


JackSpratts 31-10-03 12:04 AM

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Originally posted by naz
She's def a hottie

and she's got those eva gabor pipes.

- js.

tambourine-man 31-10-03 07:24 AM

Well, you know the old phrase....

..."liberals are just conservatives that got arrested by the police."

It's only a matter of time

greedy_lars 31-10-03 07:32 AM

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Originally posted by JackSpratts
well edited wir greedy. [/b]
should be, i stole one of yer week in reviews for a blueprint, hehhehe

span 31-10-03 07:42 AM

i'm waiting to see which one of you losers offs yourself first after Bush is re-elected

greedy_lars 31-10-03 08:54 AM

hahahahahh span is funny, look at the funny man------->span

span 31-10-03 09:07 AM

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Originally posted by greedy_lars
hahahahahh span is funny, look at the funny man------->span
your sarcasm hides a deeply rooted pain, embrace the abyss Greedy, it's the only way.

multi 31-10-03 10:10 AM

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Originally posted by naz
She's def a hottie


damn u naz & jack ..u made me put coffee everywhere....wasnt quite ready for that one...

me thinks i got her mixed up with someone else..

is this wir going to be a regular feature round here now greedy?

greedy_lars 31-10-03 10:35 AM

dunno wasent planing on it, was more a spur of the 'wow what a shitty week' thing, but depending on how its recieved and what happens in future weeks, guess it could be.

Sinner 31-10-03 12:58 PM

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Originally posted by multi
:PO:
has this woman switched sides or something i thought she was the conservatives pin up girl?

this makes too much sense to be right wing...
maybe its just more clutzy conservative mindfuck tripping over itself...



I think you were thinking Ann Coulter...



multi 31-10-03 01:30 PM

yeah thats her...
 
oops..
big difference..

JackSpratts 31-10-03 02:47 PM

ann's the nicest looking girl i can't stand. disliking her goes against my nature - but it has to be done.

- js.

greedy_lars 31-10-03 04:51 PM

lol late entry
 
Iraqi women fall for American GIs, get married and in trouble
Fri Oct 31, 6:23 AM ET

BAGHDAD (AFP) - Iraqis Joanne and Ahda fear for their lives, after marrying US soldiers who as part of the occupation force are viewed by many as the enemy.

Joanne, 26, and her best friend Ahda, 25, now live in virtual hiding, unable even to meet with their new husbands, who are also under the threat of sanctions from the army.

The two women, who were working as interpreters for the US forces in a Baghdad hotel where they met their husbands, risk abduction and murder as "collaborators" with the US-led coalition occupying conservative Muslim Iraq.


Their husbands, a captain and sergeant from the Florida National Guard serving with the 1st Armored Division, could be charged with dereliction of duty for having reportedly got married while on foot patrol in Baghdad.


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p.s. was Ann(cough cough) a liberal who switched sides?????

jcmd62 31-10-03 09:48 PM

Re: lol late entry
 
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Originally posted by greedy_lars
Iraqi women fall for American GIs, get married and in trouble
Fri Oct 31, 6:23 AM ET

BAGHDAD (AFP) - Iraqis Joanne and Ahda fear for their lives, after marrying US soldiers who as part of the occupation force are viewed by many as the enemy.

Joanne, 26, and her best friend Ahda, 25, now live in virtual hiding, unable even to meet with their new husbands, who are also under the threat of sanctions from the army.

The two women, who were working as interpreters for the US forces in a Baghdad hotel where they met their husbands, risk abduction and murder as "collaborators" with the US-led coalition occupying conservative Muslim Iraq.


Their husbands, a captain and sergeant from the Florida National Guard serving with the 1st Armored Division, could be charged with dereliction of duty for having reportedly got married while on foot patrol in Baghdad.


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p.s. was Ann(cough cough) a liberal who switched sides?????


Damn Terrorists! They will stop at nothing to attack us. Slutty suicide bombers marrying soldiers. Luckily these 2 failed to detonate.

Nice sig greedy. Tattoo it on yer wife and kids yet? Whats next? Liar liar Bush's pants are on fire?

multi 01-11-03 02:22 AM

Re: lol late entry
 
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Originally posted by greedy_lars
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p.s. was Ann(cough cough) a liberal who switched sides?????

probably not.....i read some interview with her a while back ...
i think her sort of stupidity is present at birth...;)

jcmd62 01-11-03 02:40 AM

Re: Re: lol late entry
 
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Originally posted by multi
probably not.....i read some interview with her a while back ...
i think her sort of stupidity is present at birth...;)

AHhh......This explains her selling millions of books, being rich and famous and a babe, whilst casting quite a light on your pathetic admission of being a drug addicted internet thief who can't hold a job cuz yer daddy used to beat ya.

Damn.....I guess that means that there are those like Ms. Coulter that overcome their "stupidity" and those, like you, that just learn to live with it.

greedy_lars 01-11-03 01:31 PM

...being a drug addicted internet thief who can't hold a job cuz yer daddy used to beat ya....

is that why you downloaded songs jc, gosh i dident know, im sorry dood.

multi 01-11-03 05:13 PM

plenty of looney tunes out there selling millions of books..
but ofcourse you must reduce any argument to personal attacks...
ok
i am an internet theif..i am currently in the process of stealling the WHOLE internet as we speak....

drugs ..i smoke pot...thats all dont drink ..havent had any powder drug for 15+ yrs :P
balk at taking anything from a chemist...

childhood..the old man should of been more heavy handed ...some would say..
got no problems with my folks...they did as good a job as any...

:beer:

anyway..fuck it
she or me is not what this thread is about..

how can anyone deny that this iraq BS was a WAR FOR OIL and it was designed to look like it was part of the war on terror..now
no WMD no terror links and plenty of dirty grubby corporate oil stained hands...

jcmd62 01-11-03 07:45 PM

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Originally posted by multi

how can anyone deny that this iraq BS was a WAR FOR OIL and it was designed to look like it was part of the war on terror..now
no WMD no terror links and plenty of dirty grubby corporate oil stained hands...
And your not a whiner...:f:

It seems that more and more are DENYING , and finally have opened their EYES and minds to see past the liberal bullshit

PLease do SHOW the EVIDENCE you have showing TANKERS lining up and TRANSPORTING FREE oil to the US. Instead of the same whiny ass rhetoric about a war for oil, Show 1 fucking barrel of oil that we stole from Iraq. You need to back up your accusations with facts.

No terror links?, since when did you become Saddams personal accountant? How in the fuck do you know what and where Saddam was spending the billions of dollars he made selling oil. He sure as hell wasn't improving his citizens lives now was he?

No wmds, Thank god! Thank god we aren't going sit around for another 10 years and wait for another 3 thousand people to die or the sick bastard to build a "dirty" bomb for some low life scum like the taliban to deliver for him. Thank god the U.N. sanctions actually worked and stopped him from rebuilding his stockpiles of WMD's and his nuclear endeavours.

(This is where you chime in and BLAME the US for all the poor Iraqis that died from the UN sanctions while Saddam and his murdering sons lived like celebrities on their oil sales the UN allowed.)

I guess he decided that building Palaces was more important than his citizens or Iraqs military capabilities. Oh thats right he still had his "republican guard" to do his dirty work. Fuck all those regular army Iraqis that he sent to slaughter while he hid in his palace bunkers.

BTW It was you that posted about your Dad beating you when you went to church, you also posted about the many JOBS you have gone through, and IT is YOU that continually posts about your DRUG habit. So stop acting like I'm "attacking" you personally.

Maybe you STFU and stop posting so many of your worthless ignorant band wasting pleas for ATTENTION.

multi 02-11-03 12:58 AM

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theknife 02-11-03 01:00 PM

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Originally posted by jcmd62
It seems that more and more are DENYING , and finally have opened their EYES and minds to see past the liberal bullshit

why is this "liberal bullshit"? because a psuedo-conservative president got us into this mess, so that's the only way to discredit legitimate dissent?

it is factual that :

a) there are no links between Iraq and 9/11
b) there have been no WMD's found in Iraq

so you can spin the plight of the poor Iraqi people all you want, but the fact is we were sold a war under false pretenses. that is the first half of the administration's sins...

the second half is that they completely failed to understand what they were getting into....

we now are stuck pouring billions of American tax dollars into a black hole in the Middle East that is killing American soldiers on a daily basis (15 more today)....while the primary beneficiaries of our financial largess all happen to be major Bush campaign donors.

and the "exit strategy" is the same neo-conservative fantasy of Western-style democracy in Iraq that we have yet been unable to establish in Afghanistan.



this picture is a sad joke and so are the morons who got us into this mess. far from "mission accomplished", we are in fact losing in Iraq because it's a guerilla war...and in a guerilla war, the insurgents win by not losing and the occupying forces lose by not winning.

span 03-11-03 09:05 AM

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Originally posted by theknife
why is this "liberal bullshit"? because a psuedo-conservative president got us into this mess
Clinton was a psuedo-conservative?

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it is factual that :

a) there are no links between Iraq and 9/11

but there was a link between Saddam and terrorism, remember his Palestinian Suicide Insurance policy? of course not, it doesn't fit into your "Saddam was misunderstood" philosophy.

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b) there have been no WMD's found in Iraq
they are still looking, but there is signs of an ongoing program which is against numerous UN resolutions in and of itself, not to mention the biological agents found hidden in a scientists house

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so you can spin the plight of the poor Iraqi people all you want, but the fact is we were sold a war under false pretenses. that is the first half of the administration's sins...
we were "sold" under the pretense that Saddam was a danger to us and his neighbors and had openly flaunted a laundry list of UN resolutions while letting his country wither away.

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the second half is that they completely failed to understand what they were getting into....

i never remember anyone in the Administartion saying this would be easy, in fact they all said it would be hard and take a large committment of manpower and funds.

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we now are stuck pouring billions of American tax dollars into a black hole in the Middle East that is killing American soldiers on a daily basis (15 more today)

see previous rebuttal

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....while the primary beneficiaries of our financial largess all happen to be major Bush campaign donors.

i don't see any benefiting that shouldn't be, can you name other companies with the ability to do what Halibutron or Bechtel are doing?(which suprisingly isn't reported on the nightly news, i guess the good doesn't sell as well as dying people)

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and the "exit strategy" is the same neo-conservative fantasy of Western-style democracy in Iraq that we have yet been unable to establish in Afghanistan.

i know little liberals like you support communism/socialism but it's not a very good ideology, sorry


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so are the morons who got us into this mess

i agree , Clinton was a moron

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far from "mission accomplished", we are in fact losing in Iraq because it's a guerilla war...and in a guerilla war, the insurgents win by not losing and the occupying forces lose by not winning.
Baghdad does not equal Iraq, but of course the news would have you believe that it does.

multi 03-11-03 02:46 PM

Let Them Eat War

theknife 03-11-03 05:25 PM

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Originally posted by span
Clinton was a psuedo-conservative?


but there was a link between Saddam and terrorism, remember his Palestinian Suicide Insurance policy? of course not, it doesn't fit into your "Saddam was misunderstood" philosophy.


they are still looking, but there is signs of an ongoing program which is against numerous UN resolutions in and of itself, not to mention the biological agents found hidden in a scientists house


we were "sold" under the pretense that Saddam was a danger to us and his neighbors and had openly flaunted a laundry list of UN resolutions while letting his country wither away.


i never remember anyone in the Administartion saying this would be easy, in fact they all said it would be hard and take a large committment of manpower and funds.

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see previous rebuttal

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i don't see any benefiting that shouldn't be, can you name other companies with the ability to do what Halibutron or Bechtel are doing?(which suprisingly isn't reported on the nightly news, i guess the good doesn't sell as well as dying people)

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i know little liberals like you support communism/socialism but it's not a very good ideology, sorry


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i agree , Clinton was a moron


Baghdad does not equal Iraq, but of course the news would have you believe that it does. [/b]
awww, c'mon Spanny...you're a smart guy, you can do better than that, can't you?:RE:

cut up the post, take a few comments out of context, misconstrue a few others, change some meanings around, throw in the old "liberal" tag, and add the old socialist/commie reference into the pot...you really are the well-programmed little rightie, aren't you?

y'know, if you don't get some new material, i'm not gonna play with you anymore:no:

span 04-11-03 05:48 AM

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Originally posted by theknife
awww, c'mon Spanny...you're a smart guy, you can do better than that, can't you?:RE:

cut up the post, take a few comments out of context, misconstrue a few others, change some meanings around, throw in the old "liberal" tag, and add the old socialist/commie reference into the pot...you really are the well-programmed little rightie, aren't you?

y'know, if you don't get some new material, i'm not gonna play with you anymore:no:

oh man you sure brought my ideologically misguided ass into the light.....oh wait you just posted some text without really saying anything, my bad :RE:

p.s. i'm not a "rightie"

theknife 04-11-03 04:41 PM

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Originally posted by span
p.s. i'm not a "rightie"
what a coincidence - i'm not a leftie:S:

span 05-11-03 05:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by theknife
what a coincidence - i'm not a leftie:S:
but being a moron is close enough

theknife 05-11-03 05:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by span
but being a moron is close enough
if being a moron is good enough for Bush, it's good enough for me:tu:

Sinner 05-11-03 02:52 PM

Re: Re: lol late entry
 
Quote:

Originally posted by multi
probably not.....i read some interview with her a while back ...
i think her sort of stupidity is present at birth...;)



I was going to suggest a game of "Spot The Retard" but that's too easy at the moment.

multi 05-11-03 05:04 PM

..wow ...lol
 
morons, retards..you guys are really sucking it up today...

all your fucking lame arguments are flawed..
and so you persist with the personal attacks..
fucking getting so boring...these repetitive insults that are just spineless backtracking because..your fuckedup conservative views are dated peices of self serving crap..that dont wash with most people..
so keep attacking me or whoever..with your persistant pre school style tactics....


anyway..
only retarded thing i did was bothering to read anything by her at all...

all the pre-war pro-war arguments were a load of fucking hype ....still are..so come on with your pathetic nonsense..or at least defend some of the garbage you were spamming this forum with several months ago..

make me, the retard, the whiner ,the moron ..what ever
yawn..:eke:

you conservative fucks seem to think you have a monopoly on intimidation...
i dont mean you lameasses that come in here..just generally
whats the deal with that?

Sinner 05-11-03 05:47 PM

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multi 05-11-03 06:08 PM

pathetic #### ..i give up..lol

Sinner 05-11-03 06:12 PM

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Originally posted by multi
pathetic #### ..i give up..lol


I don't know why you are getting to angry and worked up. Look, wisdom eventually comes to all of us. Someday, it might even be your turn. So I forgive you, and now lets move on to different subject. How about math, You know what 2+2 is???:hmm:



:CG:

multi 05-11-03 06:21 PM

haha ..i laugh at idiots like you that acuse me of being worked up...

i dont give a shit what any of you think..or what some feebly try and make other people think about me...

its all a part of the pathetic make up that you creepy consevatives are on and on about ...go on wank away..i dont think any one is taking much notice..:P
gee...if your mean enough maybe no one will post their views..ffs

BTW...got anything to say about the actual thread ,Mr fucking bright spark?

believe me i am much more amused than upset..lol

span 05-11-03 09:00 PM

hey look i found a post by Multi on the Democratic Underground forums

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The Republican Party is sooo aggressive and it works for them again and again. If they don't like something they put power behind it and change it no matter what it takes they do it!

The Democratic Party is passive and that passiveness
is sooooo disappointing to people who believe in
its principles. I can see why Dean is so popular,
he has guts. Today I am so angry with our party...
they fail us again and again, its like trying to
whip an almost dead donkey into going forward. There
just isn't anything there anymore. I am depressed
and angry.....Someone please give me some hope today!
seethe whine seethe whine

rinse and repeat

Sinner 06-11-03 09:37 AM

Awesome!!!!!!!!!! Just in time for X-mas...I put $20 down saying Jack and multipass are one of the first to get one...maybe two.....




Order today and be among the first to own the Ann Coulter Talking Action Figure when they ship in early November

Amuse your conservative friends and annoy your liberal neighbors with the brand new Ann Coulter Talking Action Figure. This incredibly lifelike action figure looks just like the beautiful Ann Coulter, and best of all . . . it sounds like Ann, too! Ann recorded these classic Coulter sayings especially for this action figure.


CONT---> http://www.conservativebookservice.c...r_cd=CBE017001

span 06-11-03 10:04 AM

Quote:

Push the button on the figure, and you'll hear such "Coulterisms" as:

* "Liberals can't just come out and say they want to take more of our money, kill babies, and discriminate on the basis of race."

* "At least when right-wingers rant, there's a point."

* "Swing voters are more appropriately known as the 'idiot voters' because they have no set of philosophical principles. By the age of fourteen, you're either a Conservative or a Liberal if you have an IQ above a toaster."

* "Why not go to war just for oil? We need oil. What do Hollywood celebrities imagine fuels their private jets? How do they think their cocaine is delivered to them?"

* "Liberals hate America, they hate flag-wavers, they hate abortion opponents, they hate all religions except Islam, post 9/11. Even Islamic terrorists don't hate America like Liberals do. They don't have the energy. If they had that much energy, they'd have indoor plumbing by now."
LOLERSKATES

i'm gonna have her and my GWB in a flightsuit doll* make out.


*action figure

multi 06-11-03 02:34 PM

:sto:
wheres the 3rd idiot gone..?

havent you fucks got some conservative type forum you can pat each others lame butts?

Sinner 06-11-03 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by multi
:sto:
wheres the 3rd idiot gone..?

havent you fucks got some conservative type forum you can pat each others lame butts?


You couldn't pour water out of a boot with the instructions written on the heel.

span 06-11-03 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by multi
:sto:
wheres the 3rd idiot gone..?

havent you fucks got some conservative type forum you can pat each others lame butts?

quite trying to stifle my freedom of speech you communist, this ain't the motherland.

floydian slip 06-11-03 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by span
LOLERSKATES

i'm gonna have her and my GWB in a flightsuit doll* make out.


*action figure


Will that replace your Ann Coulter sock puppet that you keep under your pillow?

multi 06-11-03 05:20 PM

freedom to lie..
 
:hah: BUSH ADMINISTRATION MANIPULATING THE FACTS TO COMBAT LOW APPROVAL RATINGS

In yet another episode of the Bush Administration’s attempts to deceive the American public, the White House has again been caught manipulating the facts on the war in Iraq. In the past weeks, 11 identical letters were sent by members of the 501st Infantry Regiment stationed in Iraq outlining the progress being made in the Iraqi reconstruction. Gannet News Service later contacted the soldiers who “authored” the letter and found that six soldiers had not written the letter but signed it, one had not signed the letter, and one didn’t even know about the letter. Incidentally, the letter appeared just five days after an October 8th memo circulated Washington, DC accusing the White House and Pentagon of making up and distorting over 50 war stories in order to boost support for the war. The memo’s author, former National War College Professor Sam Gardiner, is quoted as saying, “Never before have so many stories been created to sell a war.”more..

legion 06-11-03 05:37 PM

Some people in here need to listen a lot less to the voices that keep on saying follow me. either political or religious!

Get ya own set of virtues and live by them the best you can.

theknife 06-11-03 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Legion
Get ya own set of virtues and live by them the best you can.
as opposed to using the virtues of such stellar moral figures as Bill Bennett and Rush Limbaugh?


hmm, you might be on to something there.

legion 06-11-03 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by theknife
as opposed to using the virtues of such stellar moral figures as Bill Bennett and Rush Limbaugh?

HEHEHE who ???

span 07-11-03 04:46 AM

Re: freedom to lie..
 
Quote:

Originally posted by multi
:hah: BUSH ADMINISTRATION MANIPULATING THE FACTS TO COMBAT LOW APPROVAL RATINGS

In yet another episode of the Bush Administration’s attempts to deceive the American public, the White House has again been caught manipulating the facts on the war in Iraq. In the past weeks, 11 identical letters were sent by members of the 501st Infantry Regiment stationed in Iraq outlining the progress being made in the Iraqi reconstruction. Gannet News Service later contacted the soldiers who “authored” the letter and found that six soldiers had not written the letter but signed it, one had not signed the letter, and one didn’t even know about the letter. Incidentally, the letter appeared just five days after an October 8th memo circulated Washington, DC accusing the White House and Pentagon of making up and distorting over 50 war stories in order to boost support for the war. The memo’s author, former National War College Professor Sam Gardiner, is quoted as saying, “Never before have so many stories been created to sell a war.”more..

already debunked and explained, but i guess looking for a follow up is too much for you because it might contradict your beliefs.

tambourine-man 07-11-03 06:45 AM

Hmmmmm
 

tambourine-man 07-11-03 07:50 AM

WOW... I just discovered the mathematical formulae for this discussion...
 

Can I have a Nobel Prize now?

tambourine-man 07-11-03 07:58 AM

WOW... I just discovered the mathematical formulae for this discussion...
 
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Can I have a Nobel Prize now?

Sinner 07-11-03 10:40 AM

hhmmmm, it took you three post to get it right and it is not even funny. Or do you really believe in what you posted?.....either way it is very very sad. Do they have a Posting on Forums for Dumbies??

:beer:

naz 07-11-03 11:09 AM

Worst thread ever.

Sinner 07-11-03 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by naz
Worst thread ever.

Well I think the title gave that away.

naz 07-11-03 11:35 AM

Your contributions have been amazing as usual.

Sinner 07-11-03 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by naz
Your contributions have been amazing as usual.

I thought so too....

floydian slip 07-11-03 02:42 PM

aaamaaaaaaaaaaaaazzzzziiiiiiing graaaaaaaaaaace
hooooooooow sweeeeeeeeeeeeeet the sooooooooooound

miss_silver 07-11-03 03:06 PM

let it rest
 
That saved a wretch like me.
I once was lost
But now I'm found
Was blind but now I see.


Blindness only occurs to those who don't see that this thread is going nowhere fast!

Please do check into your nearest crazyhouse if the insanity continues:help:

span 07-11-03 03:28 PM

it was fine until Multi's frothing-at-the-mouth breakdown into liberal dementia, i hope he seeks the help he's crying out for.


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