Stop picking on Albed.

If you carry on, he'll only run off into the woods to play with the insects.

Let off?????Really.......You do realize that people covicted of "MURDER" can receive sentences as light as 5 years? The "death penalty" isn't handed out like lollipops at the bank. It is usually only handed down to habitual violent criminals whos prior prison terms obviosly didn't "bother" them enough to stop them from committing further violence. Others that receive the death penalty are ones who commit extremely heinous and brutal crimes against both adults and CHILDREN, usually multiple times before they are caught.

People that can repeatedly rape and murder without remorse lack the conscience required for their acts to have any "negative" mental effect whatsoever on them "for the rest of their lives". The only negative effects these people will experience is being caught. Their acts don't bother them walking the streets and they aren't going to bother them in prison.

Furthermore you seem to be clueless to the fact that our prisons are full of violent rapists and murderers who received "life sentences". When you get "life" you are not segregated from the prisons "general population" like you are when you receive "death", and are rubbing elbows everyday with inmates convicted of non violent crimes like drug possesion. It is a proven fact that a majority of these extremely violent criminals "get off" sexually by "reliving" and "fantasizing" the murders and rapes of their victims, not just with masturbation but also by having sex with and even raping other inmates.

Execution is final.......hardly a "let off". The real "let off" is life in prison. 3 meals a day, having a television in your cell, internet access, visits from family, having everything that you took from your victims and their families. The only thing "lifers" lose is their freedom.

Scary??? You sound like your talking about an amusement park ride. I'm pretty sure being strapped to a table knowing your life is about to end is a little more intense than scary.

BULLSHIT!.....easily said being that your not strapped to a table and about to DIE! How are you so sure "which you'd prefer" if you aren't even "sure you'd have the guts to go through with it" ? ........you aren't and you wouldn't.

100%....Even knowing that the person has no remorse or lacks any conscience about murdering your loved one. Will spend the rest of his life watching TV, using the internet, playing basketball with his homies, getting visits from his loved ones and even fantasizing and reliving the murder or rape of your loved one to sexually gratify himself? I'm quite certain that you haven't had a loved one murdered and that should it happen, that percentage of certainty you so boldly threw out would start dwindling fast.

Once again you are either completely clueless or you just conveniently choose to ignore the fact that murder is very often not carried out by someone having the human conscience required for their acts to negativly effect or "bother" them mentally. Yes as painful of a realization as it may be for you a very large percentage of violent human beings can dismiss murder or rape from their minds as easily as what they ate for breakfast.

Do you really believe that most murderers are tossing and turning every night unable to sleep because they are tormented by what they have done????????.....jeeze

The scumbag being executed is most definately being "deterred" from further acts of violence. Life imprisonment definately doesn't deter others and allows the convicted to continue his violence in prison. Then there is always the chance that some idiot governer running for re-election can commute a life without parole sentence to life with parole so we can parole yet another covicted murderer to go out and murder again.

Bottom line is there are thousands more convicted murderers in our prisons and paroled walking the streets of this country free than have been executed.

I don't buy into that politically correct load of crap that the death penalty is supposed to be a deterrent. It is punishment pure and simple. I think its quite obvious that our legal system waits until it is well past warranted before they finally sentence someone to death. Way too many innocent people have died at the hands of previously convicted violent criminals.

That sure is a lot of words used to say nothing.

You practicing to be a politician?


"What if there were no rhetorical questions?"

Amazingly, in spite of your usual shrill hatefulness, the apparent belief that you are omniscient and the absurd pretense that your arguments are based on 'proven facts,' on the particular point above I'm in complete agreement.

I'm completely ambivalent about capital punishment itself--however, I call it what it is: punishment--and clearly not a 'deterrent' except in the so-called minds of fools. (Like albed, who apparently believes anything he partially reads is 'formal proof.' lol)

All punishments are 'supposed' to be deterrents, from jail time for possession of illegal drugs to fines for traffic violations. The problem is they only 'work' on those willing to conform completely and homogeneously to a code of conduct--and this is almost no one. As simply as possible, you cannot judge what will be a deterrent in a world where people have widely divergent values.

Also, according to the FBI, in 2004 only 62% of all homicides were 'cleared,' and in some individual cities this number is as low as 40%. This means, according to best estimates, that over 6000 people 'got away with' at least one murder in 2004. Generally, if someone is going to premeditate committing a homicide, they are laboring under the pretense that they will get away with it or at least have a chance of doing so, and statistically they do have a fair shot at succeeding. If people are willing to gamble with these odds in spite of the fact that there already is a death penalty in most states, it becomes clear that it being a 'deterrent' is fantasy.

Even single celled organisms are easily deterred with electric shocks or noxious chemicals, though like Ramona, they can't understand why they're altering their behaviour.

More advanced organisms are capable of weighing the rewards and penalities for their actions and deciding accordingly, though a small percentage of warped individuals will have contrary values and perhaps view a prison full of sexually deprived men or even death as an incentive instead of a punishment, most will rationally consider potentially unpleasant consequences when doing almost anything in their lives and adjust their behaviour, as even the most casual observations demonstrate.

Well, there's your problem. I know it's hard for your single brain cell to grasp, but most people in the world have more than one.

Yes.
Nothing, nada, zilch, etc....

Here, have a beer and stop trying to be what you aren't.

Yeah jc, do you think you're some gifted special education teacher or something?


You couldn't teach a retard to drool, right dix?

Stop drooling albed.
Oh, wait; that isn't drool....
Nevermind...

Now that is funny.:tu:

Your fantasy life is disturbing indeed. You and Ramona should hook up.

:hyper: :hyper: :hyper: :hyper:

Oh come on now.
You have to admit.
That one was funny.

It was funny when jc made good points, showed tafka to be clueless moron, and then a real attention starved idiot jumped in with "waa waa waa, you're not saying anything."

You just have 0 sense of humor.
I hereby bestow upon you a potion of +12 humor.
Pay no attention to the bitter taste.
Drink up.
It's not poison; I promise.

Sorry...
But, from way up here on the "high" road, your words look like ants.

Which reminds me.

Has anyone seen my magnifying glass?