Decision 2004: You Make The Call
so who's gonna win the election?
70 some-odd days away... let's see which of you armchair generals is the savviest pundit. call it now and we'll see come November 2. i think Bush is gonna squeak through - don't think Kerry got what it takes to convince the majority of the electorate. i hope i'm wrong (and in fact, i usually am about these things) but that's the way it looks from here. |
i hope you are wrong too..
but somehow i dont think the conservatives are going to risk upsetting their agenda here or in the US, that they have probably had in the works for the last 15 or so years...i dont think they have achieved their desired level of fear and disarray in what they percieve as the lowerclasses... they will likely swindle their way through another election create a much more of a mess of our political system..install more of the corporate rich to positions of power then allow themselves to lose ...to an opposition that will find it near to impossible to rectify any of the conditions created by these corupt sorry excuses for human beings.. |
Swindle
Did I read the word swindle....?
U think Kerry aint a thief? hahahahahaah Purple hearts for sale here..... oops i got a pimple, time for another ribbon The dude scamed the gov in order to get out of the war. It worked for him. |
I think Bush will win, this time with an unambiguous majority. However, the Dems will win majorities in both the house and senate, but the majority will be so slim that nothing will be accomplished. A do-nothing congress is a double edged sword: fairly benign in the fact that few new laws will be passed (which is good since we already have too many and new laws cannot grant new rights, they can only take them away), but in three years congress will face a budget crisis when they can't agree on which programs to cut and which taxes to hike, and of course Bush will take the blame for it. Go figure. :uu:
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If you live in the UK or Australia, you'd like to know which country you'll be bombing next. I guess if you live in the middle-east, you'd be wondering whether to bother rebuilding your house. If you're living on planet earth, you'd probably take a passing interest at which talking-head you'll have to look at when being patronised. Not only that, but if Bush is kicked out, I'm gonna have to change the head on my voodoo doll. :ick: |
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and i was refering to what they had done to the democratic political system here in order to support the US and its terror war and make aus terror targets too..conservative governments generaly like to destroy the publicly owned assets in society and kill off small business and only ever support big companies with often unseen changes that cant be undone by succedeing governments.. |
I will be voting for Kerry, and i believe that he will win by a considerable amount.
I think that the american people as a whole are sick and tired of hearing about terror warning this and terror alert that and more dead US military in Iraq....i grew tired of it long ago. Usless side fact... From the first election of my life (born in December 1980, so that would be G. H. W. Bush in '88) I have picked the winner, yea its only been 4 times, but still 4 and 0 isnt bad. Im going with my gut here....we will see if i end up 5 and 0 or 4 and 1 ;) |
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Im sure you liked Regan in 84 but you probably dont remember. :D My voting record started 1988 (18) and I am 2-2. Good luck gutr I hope you are right again. My prediction: John Edwards will be President. |
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that's an interesting call....you mean Kerry will be unable to go the distance, for whatever reason, so Edwards will step in and win? |
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maybe in another decade or so :AP: |
Somebody has too
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I would love to come and live in the states. Tell me how. Legally. Did you know the U.K.is one of the only country's that it's citizens Can't get permits in the 50,000 that are given out every year in a lottery. Yes I could come illegally. (I was offered a job last year) But I would like to do it properly. Your labour laws are somewhat restricting I was told. Local people first and all that. |
i was really refering to what consevative governments do to democratic countries generaly..if you follow the notion that the US ,UK and australia are a coalition of democratic countries caught up in some modern day crusades recruiting the next generation of terrorists by installing a rabid hate for western democracies
..its a psyops operation being waged against us by our leaders..basicly a smokescreen while they prop up more big business,diminsh your rights and let israel run rampant.. its too late to stop these fuckers they overtook any real opposition long ago.. but all in all ..what ever happens..eventualy some light will be shed on our seemingly domed future at the hands of madmen..and the light will be love.. Hymn 419 Lord of all being, throned afar, thy glory flames from sun and star; center and soul of every sphere, yet to each loving heart how near! Sun of our life, thy quickening ray sheds on our path the glow of day; star of our hope, thy softened light cheers the long watches of the night. Our midnight is thy smile withdrawn, our noontide is thy gracious dawn, our rainbow arch thy mercy's sign; all, save the clouds of sin, are thine. Lord of all life, below, above, whose light is truth, whose warmth is love, before thy ever-blazing throne we ask no luster of our own. Grant us thy truth to make us free, and kindling hearts that burn for thee, till all thy living altars claim one holy light, one heavenly flame. Words: Oliver Wendell Holmes, 1848 i prefer to watch fireworks from a distance..:W: |
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- js. |
The 20th Amendment allows leaders of the party of the popular-vote winner to select a new presidential candidate if the winner dies before the Electoral College meets. The college would then vote on that selection. If the popular-vote winner dies after the college meets but before the inauguration, the winning candidate for vice president becomes president. Neither of these provisions has ever been applied.
http://www2.worldbook.com/features/p...html/roads.htm Not exactly what you asked, but it implies a special convention to me |
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soFloyd's scenario is something like Kerry drops out for some scandalous reason (or gets sick or dies, but a scandal seems more within the realm of possibility), Edwards becomes the de facto nominee and goes on to beat Bush. i like it :ND: p.s. i mighta known this thread would end up in left field - shoulda just made it a poll :hmm: |
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Hahahahahahaha, fur sure |
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at least I made a prediction. :) unlike others :frank: |
i'll change my earlier assessment - i think Kerry is going to pull it out. i didn't think so when i started this thread in August but he's only gotten stronger while the Prez has not moved an inch.
electoral vote count: Kerry 302 Bush 236 |
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