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07-06-01 01:51 PM

Have you Stopped Using Napster?
 
Yes,I stoped Using Napster this Week.Since The Servers are filtered Napster isn't so Great anymore.
I have Started a search On various File-Sharing Programs. I have checked out-Bearshare-Gozilla-Rapigator-WinMX-and AudioGalaxy.
I still have a few to try before I make my mind on Which to use on the future, but so far I Enjoy Using WinMX the Best:)
I have Stoped Using Napster acutally since they block alot of stuff. Since Monday I have Been Using WinMX and It also Connectes to Napster servers,so its like having Napster but without the Napster software.I know Napster Servers are Filtered now but WinMx has its own servers as well and a variety of Music Files.

I want to Hear Peoples opinions on thier Current File-Sharing Program To Help Me and other Users decide which to try and maybe Keep as thier future File-Sharing Program.
Thanks to all that reply.:b: :W:

TankGirl 07-06-01 03:30 PM

Hi Goth_Rey_Mysterio! :)

WinMX is a good alternative for ex-Napster users but check also Morpheus, Music City's new client that is very popular (about 200.000 users now and no filtering :D). Many people (including me) use a combination of these two clients. You can even run them at the same time if you wish and look for songs and movies from both of them. Morpheus is a bit heavier on your machine and it is also known to leak memory so I recommend you to restart the program now and then so that you don't run out of system resources.

- tg ;)

zombywoof 07-06-01 08:06 PM

As for napster, I stopped using their client accessing their servers since the filtering. I use different programs like Audiognome,WinMx, Gnucleus, Morpheus, Bearshare, Limewire, Copernic and to a lesser extent, the Napster client with napigator for opennap access. Sometimes I check out FTP sites to check for full albums.

thinker 07-06-01 08:25 PM

Since the filtering started I've used Napster no more times than one could count on one hand, and only to serve morbid curiosity on what percentage the filtering leaves. :NS: I use WinMX 2.1 right now, and I think I will download 2.6 tonight and run both versions at the same time to see what happens. If you have dial-up and your connections are UNSTABLE, it may not be such a good idea to use Morpheus, as it does not give exact filesizes. WinMX does, and it would be easier to resume broken transfers that way. Morpheus is generally better for broadband users. Also, don't forget to deactivate supernode mode and a couple of other things, and do avoid the system resource depletion.

BTW, I tried to start using Napster once again to satisfy curiosity. It wouldn't even run, heh. POS.

VWguy 07-06-01 08:26 PM

I have been on Morpheus, and it is pretty good. I only just started with WinMx, and I don't like it. I have terrible DL speed, even for a dialup. ( never more than 3bps, mostly under 2)
It could just be me, I am still trying though.

Cash-- 08-06-01 12:51 AM

VW guy.
Im on dialup too. I have noticed that sometimes I get the same trouble with dl speeds....Usually I just stop that particular transfer, and try another copy of the same song...from a different user. Often times I get a better speed than I did with napster.
It just takes a while to find the right person, with the right song.

Moist_Funny_Head 08-06-01 07:42 AM

Napster? What's that? Oh you mean that old skool file sharing prog people used to use in the old days huh? Haven't seen that around since ages man. :BL: Seriously though I use Morpheus now. Napster sucks much ass and Audiognome can't connect to any decent servers anymore. I didn't like Win MX and Bearshare and Audiogalaxy (I think) have spyware in 'em. Morpheus was the only one left in the end. :m: :m: :m: :m:

Cash-- 08-06-01 11:15 AM

Does anyone on dialup use Morpheous?

schmooky007 09-06-01 02:42 AM

i stopped using napster back in dec 2000 :)
so that'll make it about 7 months

i wasn't always keen about tunes from napster because of the quality
irc was and still is my main source

Pacewon 09-06-01 07:47 AM

I'm using both Morpheus and WinMx right now, but I prefer Morpheus, since it's getting so hard to connect to those Open-Nap servers on WInMx, and their own serverless network is usually slow, and gives slow downloads... On morpheus I have had tons of downloads, exceding 100k/s...

fblaguy 09-06-01 12:43 PM

Well, I use WinMX and I like to use that right now.....

Morpheous is good though

09-06-01 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by walberg_rastafari
Napster? What's that? Oh you mean that old skool file sharing prog people used to use in the old days huh? Haven't seen that around since ages man. :BL: Seriously though I use Morpheus now. Napster sucks much ass and Audiognome can't connect to any decent servers anymore. I didn't like Win MX and Bearshare and Audiogalaxy (I think) have spyware in 'em. Morpheus was the only one left in the end. :m: :m: :m: :m:
What Exactly is Spyware and How does it effect me?
lol, In Fact I do Have WinMX,Bearshare and Audiogalaxy,although I'm thinking of removing Bearshare sine I don't use it much and Don't like it.

Also What is an FTP site? Is that what Audiogalaxy runs on? Thanks for answering my 3 Questions:b: :RS:

naz 10-06-01 03:02 AM

aint used napster in a few weeks but theres a wealth of obscure shit still available on it, this will no doubt change. IRC's pretty cool for filetrading, not if your looking for something in particluar [unless its appz] but just a cool way to share.
BRING BACK #MP3 :ND:

zombywoof 10-06-01 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Goth_Rey_Mysterio


What Exactly is Spyware and How does it effect me?
lol, In Fact I do Have WinMX,Bearshare and Audiogalaxy,although I'm thinking of removing Bearshare sine I don't use it much and Don't like it.

Also What is an FTP site? Is that what Audiogalaxy runs on? Thanks for answering my 3 Questions:b: :RS:

1. Spyware or Adware is that the advertising companies install additional tracking software on your system, which is continuously calling home, using your Internet connection and reports statistical data.

2. An FTP Site is a server where downloading and uploading can be accomplished. When you log onto an FTP server, it works like navigating through your hard drive. A server is a program on a computer which services client requests. You connect to an FTP server by knowing its IP address and the port it runs on.

3. Audiogalaxy is not an ftp but a peer-to-peer filehare app similar to that of napster.

11-06-01 10:59 AM

It used to be that when using Napster I had to post my connection speed as lower than it was, because too many people were uploading at once, causing transfer errors. Then in the last month or so, I was able to truthfully list my connection speed. Now, the filters are knocking off about 94% of my files. I go on to Napster for a few hours and nothing happens. Whereas I used to go on to Napster to support it, lately I've come to the conclusion that the hamfisted sloppy filtering is Napster's fault, rather than Patel's. They've had plenty of time to develop a better method. I'm starting to develop a cynical attitude towards Napster, not unlike that of 9504, but I still haven't deleted it because I like to see what they're up to from day to day.

I've been waiting to see what other file sharing programs will become a good replacement, and so far I've seen Morpheus mentioned the most, but I haven't dumped Napster yet. Check this link out, which reviews some Napster clones:
http://www.geocities.com/napster_programs/

Tom9504 11-06-01 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by eclectica
I'm starting to develop a cynical attitude towards Napster, not unlike that of 9504, but I still haven't deleted it because I like to see what they're up to from day to day.
Just call me the Napster-cynic master... hehe.

... but oddly enough, I haven't deleted it either (I still have all 10 betas installed, actually). I will go on from time-to-time just to see how things are going, like you and probably many others still do. Sharing 7 files though, and I haven't had a download in weeks. Occasionally I will get one if I go on after getting some new Top 40 stuff that Napster haven't got around to putting in the filters yet.

I've been looking for alternatives... I've downloaded Morpheus, WinMX, BearShare and AudioGnome so far. BearShare and WinMX both take ages to connect to servers, and then all of the search results are almost instantly invalid. I've never had a full download on either. Also, WinMX's UI and website looks like it was designed by a monkey.

Morpheus and AudioGnome are the only ones I would consider using right now... Morpheus is my favourite for getting the actual music (basically, for leeching), while AudioGnome is much better for talking to people, IMs and the general social side of things.

Just my opinion of the alternatives so far... I'd be interested if anyone can suggest any others to try.

11-06-01 12:49 PM

Moore's law:
every eighteen months, processor speeds will double.

Shawn's law:
every eighteen days, your shared files will be halved.

relic 11-06-01 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cash--
Does anyone on dialup use Morpheous?
yep I do...I've even downloaded movie using it on a dialup :)

as for the napster question...yes I use the client, but when I absolutely can't find a song I use either Audiognome or Morpheus.

edit: spelling.

Cash-- 11-06-01 11:01 PM

triple-A

Does it work very well for you.....
what kinda tranny rate do you usually get?

relic 11-06-01 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cash--
triple-A

Does it work very well for you.....
what kinda tranny rate do you usually get?

depending on how many differ users you are getting the file from I have usually been getting transfer rates anywhere between 3.5 and 6. With my movie I got between 3 and 4 most of the time...but sometimes I was really going slow at 1 or 2 transferies (hence the download took about 2 weeks). It seems like all the songs I get with Morpheus transfer rather quickly, I set my new transfer record using Morpheus (6.4).

TankGirl 15-06-01 03:43 PM

:W:

18-06-01 08:27 AM

Re: Have you Stopped Using Napster?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Gothic_Rey_Mysterio
Yes,I stoped Using Napster this Week. I want to Hear Peoples opinions on thier Current File-Sharing Program To Help Me and other Users decide which to try and maybe Keep as thier future File-Sharing Program.
Thanks to all that reply.:b: :W:

Jack Rates His Current Clients:

1). Winmx......(best interface, u/ls & controls but d/ls iffy)

2). Morpheus..(best d/ls but returns sparse with poor u/ls, interface, controls & player)

3). Gnucleus...(best gnutella scheme with huge returns but high bandwidth user while idling)

4). Bear/Lime..(tricky & slow but can be usefull - use ad-aware to remove spyware from bear)

5). Napster.....(still need it - fast fast fast)

18-06-01 11:14 AM

poop;(

18-06-01 11:14 AM

i use morpheus and audiogalaxy.

both on a dial up connection.

i think they both have about the same number of shared files, but if i had broadband i would use morpheus because some people share .wav files of songs (which <i>should</i> sound better than a .mp3.

assorted 24-06-01 01:49 AM

my current p2p habits....

1) <a href="http://www.mirc.com">irc</a> (specifically undernet; #mp3passion) - the only way to go for prerelease and new full albums.

2) <a href="http://sourceforge.net/projects/gnucleus">gnucleus</a> - my preferred client for 24/7 serving for a variety of reasons and features; but i admit i rarely download with it.

3) <a href="http://download.cnet.com/downloads/0-1896420-100-5590701.html?tag=st.dl.10001-103-1.lst-7-1.5590701">morpheus</a>/<a href="http://www.winmx.com/">winmx</a> - what i have to use right now for back catalogue stuff when i need it; i just don't like winmx and morpheus; it's obvious they are gonna bust out a for profit model sooner or later that will screw the users so i'm not bothering sharing on their systems.

i've taken audiognome, napster, and bearshare off my system for different reasons. i'd love to serve on morpheus but the memory leak kinda nips that in the bud. i'm keeping my ears open for when it's fixed.

many folks love <a href="http://www.forteinc.com/agent/freagent.htm">usenet</a> still for mp3s; i'm not one of them but if your not familiar with it you should give it a try just to know what it's all about.

relic 25-06-01 10:44 AM

I have now stopped using it because they just came out with v 2 beta 10.3 and have disabled use of older versions...which means beta 5 no longer works :(. Napster was excellent while it lasted.

zombywoof 25-06-01 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by aaacbada
I have now stopped using it because they just came out with v 2 beta 10.3 and have disabled use of older versions...which means beta 5 no longer works :(. Napster was excellent while it lasted.
However, if you still use napigator to access the opennap servers, beta 5 will work just fine.

relic 25-06-01 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by oscar


However, if you still use napigator to access the opennap servers, beta 5 will work just fine.

yes that is what I am doing now hehe

I also have gotten info regarding exe manipulating from a 'certain' person from these boards. Thanks again 'person' :D

zombywoof 25-06-01 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by aaacbada


I also have gotten info regarding exe manipulating from a 'certain' person from these boards. Thanks again 'person' :D

What do you mean by exe manipulation 3A? Is it something like incorporating the functions of an old beta with the features of the new beta?

relic 25-06-01 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by oscar


What do you mean by exe manipulation 3A? Is it something like incorporating the functions of an old beta with the features of the new beta?

:BL: sorry man I was trying to use real big words to sound important :). Simply hex editing was all that I was referring to.

zombywoof 25-06-01 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by aaacbada


:BL: sorry man I was trying to use real big words to sound important :). Simply hex editing was all that I was referring to.

I wasn't sure, but i thought hex editing was what you were talking about. The only hex edited versions I have are ones that change the appearance of the of the version slightly, but not really incorporating features from one beta to another.

relic 25-06-01 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by oscar


I wasn't sure, but i thought hex editing was what you were talking about. The only hex edited versions I have are ones that change the appearance of the of the version slightly, but not really incorporating features from one beta to another.

well I guess not even hexed version work now. So napigator is going to be more in use by me :D

26-06-01 12:11 AM

i'm using it right now. beta 2ver 9.6 still works.

relic 26-06-01 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JackSpratts
i'm using it right now. beta 2ver 9.6 still works.
yeah anything 9.4+ works like a charm.

26-06-01 02:36 PM

for P2P I use morpheus

ideally I prefer FTP

Thanks to cpud, he introduced me to his server (50 gigs of mp3) and the eventually to the ftp community.
I met him during the last week of the unspoiled napster :love:

relic 26-06-01 03:20 PM

that's odd...I can use beta 5 again.

TankGirl 26-06-01 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by aaacbada
that's odd...I can use beta 5 again.
I heard from a regular Nappy user that the user counts on Nappy servers had collapsed as soon as Nappy banned their own older clients. They may have scared out at the prospect of losing their entire user community over to the competition. Morpheus is already bigger that Napster and WPNP is not far behind.

- tg ;)

relic 26-06-01 03:55 PM

thanks for the info tg. I really enjoy using Morpheus but I at least like to keep my beta 5 working...just as a reminder of all the good times in the past.

zombywoof 27-06-01 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by aaacbada
thanks for the info tg. I really enjoy using Morpheus but I at least like to keep my beta 5 working...just as a reminder of all the good times in the past.
...And the fact that beta 5 is basically a nuts and bolts version without the bells and whistles that still works fine in the opennap network.

BTW, thanks for the info, TG.:)

Headbanger 26-07-01 12:02 AM

I never really used Napster except for a brief trial period before all the controversy started. When the lawsuit was filed, I stopped using it and became a Napster opponent out of respect for the bands I admire. And because I saw it as a threat to my own musical interests.

But I later changed my mind and I don't see file sharing as a threat to musicians... perhaps to record labels, but I don't really care about them. I have since used audiogalaxy to download a conservative number of songs, and I bought at least a couple of CDs as a result. I have never burned MP3s to CDR as I find the quality of most MP3s to be too poor to waste a disk on.

PS: I know I have never posted to the P2P forum before... but I figgured, what the hell. :att:

26-07-01 08:03 AM

welcome to p2p hb:spin:


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