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JackSpratts 09-10-04 06:25 AM

The Mystery of the Bulge in the President's Jacket
 
Can you hear me now?

Elisabeth Bumiller

What was that bulge in the back of President Bush's suit jacket at the presidential debate in Miami last week?

According to rumors racing across the Internet this week, the rectangular bulge visible between Mr. Bush's shoulder blades was a radio receiver, getting answers from an offstage counselor into a hidden presidential earpiece. The prime suspect was Karl Rove, Mr. Bush's powerful political adviser.

When the online magazine Salon published an article about the rumors on Friday, the speculation reached such a pitch that White House and campaign officials were inundated with calls.

First they said that pictures showing the bulge might have been doctored. But then, when the bulge turned out to be clearly visible in the television footage of the evening, they offered a different explanation.

"There was nothing under his suit jacket," said Nicolle Devenish, a campaign spokeswoman.

"It was most likely a rumpling of that portion of his suit jacket, or a wrinkle in the fabric."

Ms. Devenish could not say why the "rumpling" was rectangular.

Nor was the bulge from a bulletproof vest, according to campaign and White House officials; they said Mr. Bush was not wearing one.



http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/09/po...n/09bulge.html

theknife 09-10-04 08:15 AM

he had an erection.

albed 09-10-04 08:41 AM

He had his hunchback surgically removed...in Mexico.

Malk-a-mite 09-10-04 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by JackSpratts
Nor was the bulge from a bulletproof vest, according to campaign and White House officials; they said Mr. Bush was not wearing one.



http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/09/po...n/09bulge.html


Odd that - the town hall debate I thought it looked like he was wearing a vest. A bit of padding in the front and back that didn't fit his profile and the slight outline of arm holes near his shoulder blades.

Maybe he's wearing a vest, maybe he just has badly fitting suits, maybe it's something else entirely. Who knows.

daddydirt 09-10-04 11:00 AM

it's a rectangular pen.....just like Kerry's
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/09/po...n/09bulge.html

All the (bad or possibly damaging) News (about Bush) That's Fit to Print

i don't remember reading anything in the Times about the internet rumors questioning what Kerry pulled out of his coat pocket at the start of the first debate.

they're gonna run with this one though. what a surprise. :RE:


Bias : A CBS Insider Exposes How the Media Distort the News by Bernard Goldberg

Arrogance: Rescuing America From the Media Elite by Bernard Goldberg

TankGirl 09-10-04 05:14 PM

I'd say it's just a glitch in the matrix.

- tg :WA:

thinker 12-10-04 04:06 PM

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Not wearing a vest? That would be Quite Surprising. In a way the bulge also reminds me of the equipment Lance Armstrong was wearing in this year's TDF time trial up L'Alpe d'Huez. Can anyone tell me what that is? ;)

theknife 12-10-04 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by thinker
Not wearing a vest? That would be Quite Surprising. In a way the bulge also reminds me of the equipment Lance Armstrong was wearing in this year's TDF time trial up L'Alpe d'Huez. Can anyone tell me what that is? ;)

he too has an erection.

these people get them in the strangest places.:eke:

Ramona_A_Stone 12-10-04 08:31 PM

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"There was nothing under his suit jacket," said Nicolle Devenish, a campaign spokeswoman.
Ms. Devenish then exclaimed that she was the rightful emperor of France, caught and ate a live pigeon, lifted her dress over her head and squatted on the ground for half an hour, insisting that she was an invisible pumpkin.



My theory is that they tried feeding him lines (and whoever 'they' are, they'd be really stupid not to at least think to try it) but alas, in trial runs he couldn't distinguish them from the little voices of Jesus and Satan in his head, so in a last-ditch effort they rigged him with a portable electroshock unit instead, thinking they could at least attempt to wean him from those ultracondescending flared nostril how-in-the-world-does-no-one-get-this-shit-but-me looks with some real-time aversion therapy.

Realizing that the importance of the debates and the dignity of the presidency might merit something a little more state of the art than this device which caused him to appear as if he was cheating on Jeopardy, they'll be using a more advanced and undetectable suppository unit in the third round.

JackSpratts 12-10-04 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by daddydirt
i don't remember reading anything in the Times about the internet rumors questioning what Kerry pulled out of his coat pocket at the start of the first debate.

oh that. it was the jammer. :D

- js.

daddydirt 13-10-04 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Ramona_A_Stone

This IS a poodle.


VWguy 13-10-04 01:26 AM

It is most likely a low profile bullet proof vest, probably semi custom. The lump looks like one of the velcro closures, moved further to the back to make it less obvious. As to why it was denied that it is a vest, that would be for security reasons, it is a "nusciance" quality vest for handgun type attacks. An attacker who would jump out of a crowd (think Regan) and started shooting would go for the largest target, the center of mass, in essence the chest or back as it would be easy to hit. If one knew in advance the target was wearing a vest then they might choose a scoped rifle from a distance, which could easily penitrate a vest, or aim for the head.

A radio of any kind would be better hidden at belt level, at the small of the back. It would never be placed so high up the back.

Excuse the spelling, it is late.

VWguy 13-10-04 01:29 AM

Or it could be a GPS tracking unit in case he gets lost.

floydian slip 13-10-04 02:07 AM

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sometimes when i dry my clothes and lay them on something or put them on a hanger the clothes take the shape of what I hang them on. It will stay that way when i wear them as well.

Thus, the suit coat was wet and he laid it on a dugout that was on the coffe table.

A dugout is a wooden box you put your weed in. ;)

malvachat 13-10-04 02:37 AM

Come on in George it's getting late.
 
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Originally Posted by VWguy
Or it could be a GPS tracking unit in case he gets lost.

I'll go with that.
It sounds the most plausible.

multi 13-10-04 03:45 AM

28 different views of the 'bulge'
http://cryptome.quintessenz.at/mirror/bush-bulge.htm

JackSpratts 13-10-04 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by multi

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"Because Bush is famously prone to malapropisms and reportedly dyslexic, which could make successful use of a teleprompter problematic, they say the president and his handlers may have turned to a technique often used by television reporters on remote stand-ups. A reporter tapes a story and, while on camera, plays it back into an earpiece, repeating lines just after hearing them, managing to sound spontaneous and error free.

Suggestions that Bush may have using this technique stem from a D-day event in France, when a CNN broadcast appeared to pick up -- and broadcast to surprised viewers -- the sound of another voice seemingly reading Bush his lines, after which Bush repeated them. Danny Schechter, who operates the news site MediaChannel.org, and who has been doing some investigating into the wired-Bush rumors himself, said the Bush campaign has been worried of late about others picking up their radio frequencies -- notably during the Republican Convention on the day of Bush's appearance. "They had a frequency specialist stop me and ask about the frequency of my camera," Schechter said. "The Democrats weren't doing that at their convention."

As for whether we really do have a Milli Vanilli president, the answer at this point has to be, God only knows."

more blogger bits.



lol - the "milli vanilli" prez. :)

- js.

greedy_lars 13-10-04 02:01 PM

omg this thread is soooooo funny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

pisser 14-10-04 03:14 PM

That is where cheney sticks the wind up key.... :BL:

jcat 15-10-04 06:21 AM

Is Bush Wired? New Photo Analysis
 


Keep this text with this image, but spread it widely, put it on web sites, for all must know. The American press seems unwilling or afraid to report or investigate this story, as well as many other questionable issues of the Bush administration.

The American people must know about the probability that Bush was wired and therefore probably cheated during the first Presidential debate. If true, it speaks volumes of the character of this President. The person who put this image together used simple techniques with commercial software used by amateur as well as professional photographers the world over. This person encourages
others to reproduce the enhancements and to improve on them by using better quality video, and averaging more frames.

Get the story out and do not let it die. But remain anonymous. The Bush administration is arresting peaceful demonstrators and will apparently stop at nothing to stop the truth.

American Democracy is at stake. VOTE!


http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles...4bushwired.htm

malvachat 15-10-04 11:21 AM

He's there again
 
Once again Alex has got the goods.
The evidence keeps pilling up.

multi 15-10-04 11:34 PM

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"I think it was his battery," a grinning Edwards told Jay Leno on "The Tonight Show" on Tuesday. more..

multi 16-10-04 06:37 PM

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gallery of bush bulges

multi 20-10-04 02:04 AM

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maybe theyr'e right...

esteeaz 20-10-04 07:51 PM

thats awsome...
 
hahahahahahahahahahaahahhaahah thats so great!!!!!! i went to the kerry edwards rally and it was amazing my mom and i had a blast!!!! great pic - im printing now ahahahahahahaahahah!!!!!!! :BGA:

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schmooky007 21-10-04 10:47 PM

i think it's a bulletproof vest.

theknife 05-11-04 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by schmooky007
i think it's a bulletproof vest.

give that man a cigar:

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The last word on Bush’s bulge

Call off the conspiracy freaks. Now it can be told: That mysterious bulge on President Bush’s back during the first presidential debate was not an electronic device feeding him answers, but a strap holding his bulletproof vest in place.

Speculation about the bulge on the Internet only increased since Georges de Paris, the Washington tailor who makes Bush’s suits, told The Hill last month that it was nothing more than a pucker on the back of Bush’s coat caused when he crossed his arms.

But sources in the Secret Service told The Hill that Bush was wearing a bulletproof vest, as he does most of the time when appearing in public. The president’s handlers did not want to admit as much during the campaign, for fear of disclosing information related to his personal security while he was on the campaign trail.

The suspicion that Bush was, indeed, wearing something under his coat was given further credence by Dr. Robert M. Nelson, a senior research scientist for NASA and Caltech’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory, and an international authority on image analysis, who conducted tests while working at home on his own computers.

“I am willing to stake my scientific reputation to the statement that Bush was wearing something under his jacket during the debate,” Nelson told Salon.com. “This is not about a bad suit. And there’s no way the bulge can be described as a wrinkled shirt.”
http://www.hillnews.com/under_dome/110404.aspx

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"The president’s handlers...."
this president doesn't have aides or security - he has handlers. do you think they feed him, too?

jcmd62 08-11-04 09:40 AM

Jeez you liberal yucks were grasping at every pitiful excuse for a conspiracy those last days before the big "rock the vote" was supposed to happen.

OMFG there is a bulge in the presidents jacket what could it be? Actually its an Alien controller that the Beta-zeds from Arubis 9 control our leader with.

Cospiracy...transmitters..positronic brain....you idiots.....you bet your ass the prez. wears a damn vest in public, and not some lightweight handgun only vest...Hell no that is a state of the art fully armoured concealed vest with steel plates protecting as much as possible vital areas from high powered rifles. Presidents have been wearing vests exclusively since Reagan was shot. Obviously short of wearing a steel/kevlar helmet, his head is always vulnerable and Secret Service is his firstline of defense against threats, the vest is worn strictly for the "just in case", last line of defense safety it provides if some lunatic liberal gets off a pot shot, the President has as much protection as possible short of full body Armour including head protection.

Whay is it ok for your liberal media to use transmitters during live T.V. and your precious little Ashlee Simpson to lip sync on a T.V. program that used to be popular for the fact it was "LIVE". NOT just the skits, but the musicians were always playing live on Saturday Night LIVE. So what if the President was getting help from an advisor. I'm not just voting him into office I'm also voting in his advisors also. The presidency is as much a TEAM effort as any job is. We all depend on others at some time to aid us in our jobs.

As John MCcain said recently "the election is over, Its time to stop the bickering and arguing and for us to pull together as a TEAM not just as a government, but as a Nation."

JackSpratts 08-11-04 10:23 AM

ah jc, ever since i lost my subscription to the weekly world news and the wacky editorials of "ed anger" i can't tell you how much i look forward to your madcap interpretations of world events. you're not quite in ed's league but by golly for the price you'll sure as hell do. :ND:

- js.

Ramona_A_Stone 08-11-04 01:44 PM

"Your precious little Ashlee Simpson"--beloved icon of liberals nationwide, destroyer of the conservative bastion of taste and morality that used to be SNL.

ROTFLMAO

Thanks for the official inside disclosure on the bulletproof vest btw Jughead. It's nice to see at least one of you republican yucks on the TEAM come clean, even though everyone in the administration, including Bush denied it outright.

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"There was nothing under his suit jacket," said Nicolle Devenish, a campaign spokeswoman.
...apparently not even a human being.

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Nor was the bulge from a bulletproof vest, according to campaign and White House officials; they said Mr. Bush was not wearing one.
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"I don't know what that is," Mr. Bush said. "I mean, it is — I'm embarrassed to say it's a poorly tailored shirt."
But we'll forgive this concerted LIE since it's in the interest of security, and since LYING to us about what's in the best interest of our security in general is the new black in the party's line of Emperor's Clothing.

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Sources in the Secret Service told The Hill that Bush "was wearing a bulletproof vest, as he does most of the time when appearing in public. The president’s handlers did not want to admit as much during the campaign, for fear of disclosing information related to his personal security while he was on the campaign trail."
Obviously this lie could save his life, as they wouldn't want any would-be liberal yuck assassin to be wise to a bulletproof vest, clueing them into the crazy idea of trying a head-shot.

:PO:

It's kind of the same theory that attacking Iraq is making New York safer right now.

Thank god for four more years of consistency.

albed 08-11-04 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by VWguy
It is most likely a low profile bullet proof vest, probably semi custom. The lump looks like one of the velcro closures, moved further to the back to make it less obvious. As to why it was denied that it is a vest, that would be for security reasons, it is a "nusciance" quality vest for handgun type attacks. An attacker who would jump out of a crowd (think Regan) and started shooting would go for the largest target, the center of mass, in essence the chest or back as it would be easy to hit. If one knew in advance the target was wearing a vest then they might choose a scoped rifle from a distance, which could easily penitrate a vest, or aim for the head.

Looks like you inherited Rodney Dangerfield's position VW.





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Originally Posted by theknife
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Originally Posted by schmooky007
i think it's a bulletproof vest.


give that man a cigar:

Give that liberal a clue.


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Originally Posted by jcmd62
Hell no that is a state of the art fully armoured concealed vest with steel plates protecting as much as possible vital areas from high powered rifles.

You're not impressing anyone with your high powered bs jc. State of the art is ceramic plates and that vest sure as hell doesn't have them. VW seems to know what he's talking about.

jcmd62 08-11-04 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Ramona_A_Stone
"Your precious little Ashlee Simpson"--beloved icon of liberals nationwide, destroyer of the conservative bastion of taste and morality that used to be SNL.

ROTFLMAO

Wait a minute........according to liberals, if your "Young", then you are automatically a liberal. The Democrats basically ran their whole campaign on this belief. Besides I figured someone would jump on that one. Actually coaxed moana out from unda his rock.

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Originally Posted by Ramona_A_Stone
Thanks for the official inside disclosure on the bulletproof vest btw Jughead. It's nice to see at least one of you republican yucks on the TEAM come clean, even though everyone in the administration, including Bush denied it outright.

Ok so what the heck was all the whining about the bulge for? Didn't know it was anybody's business what the President wears under his jacket.

As you answered your own rhetoric, the bulge whatever it was, was none of your concern. Too bad as usual the media in its infinite arrogance and ignorance in that it even comes close to dispelling truth had already well saturated the public with its dramatic and untrue reporting/a.k.a. RUMOURS, that once again in order to stop the rumour mill and lies, any speck of saftey or benefit that the rest of thre WORLD not knowing about the Presidents vest may have given him has to be lost completely. Not for the "truth" or "justice" or anything remotely important, no just for ratings and the almighty dollar.

jcmd62 08-11-04 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by albed
You're not impressing anyone with your high powered bs jc. State of the art is ceramic plates and that vest sure as hell doesn't have them. VW seems to know what he's talking about.

Since when did you get top secret clearance as to the exact type of vest the president wears you trolling fuck. Truth is carbon fiber plates made with kevlar is state of the art also. You can have a custom vest made with steel, ceramic or carbon fiber trauma inserts. Fuck you and your anal knit picking, Your the one not impressing anyone. VW can believe he's wearing some handgun vest and maybe he's right, I believe differently. When I said state of the art I meant "body armour" that is now concealable, not some everyday wear concealed handgun vest worn by duty cops. If my choice of inserts wasn't your particular choice then too bad asswipe.

Prove your claims.. You are claiming first hand knowledge that the president was not ony wearing a vest but what type. Whether it did or didn't have trauma plates over vital areas.....So tell us how do you KNOW that the Presidents vest had no trauma/rifle inserts! How do you know that bulge wasn't a rifle insert? Prove your not just a troll looking to disagree with every anal thing you can find. Show us the means to this superior knowledge you claim yet can't prove.

Ramona_A_Stone 08-11-04 04:34 PM

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blah blah blah... any speck of saftey or benefit that the rest of thre WORLD not knowing about the Presidents vest may have given him has to be lost completely. Not for the "truth" or "justice" or anything remotely important, no just for acting like a big-shot at a bulletin board.
You're a regular one man circus aren't ya?

We crazy liberals never said it was bulletproof vest, at least I never did and neither did the administration or Bush himself (I believe we may have established they were lying, but you continue to cloud the issue) and the crazy liberal media simply reported the official denials...

....so I guess only you ARMCHAIR TACTICAL EXPERTS are to BLAME for this GREVIOUS BREECH OF SECURITY and endangering the president's big fat naked smirking head, which now, because of your irresponsible rumor-milling, EVERYONE REALIZES IS TOTALLY UNPROTECTED!!!

Anne Coulter will probably want you hanged, right up there next to Geraldo Rivera.
:W:

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Since when did you get top secret clearance as to the exact type of vest the president wears you trolling fuck.
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Prove your claims.. You are claiming first hand knowledge that the president was not ony wearing a vest but what type.
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Show us the means to this superior knowledge you claim yet can't prove.
And now, we watch, with great amusement, as the conservative republican TEAM, secure in their collective triumph over the evil liberals, begin to turn on themselves over a completely moot issue.

jcmd62 08-11-04 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Ramona_A_Stone
You're a regular one man circus aren't ya?

We crazy liberals never said it was bulletproof vest, at least I never did and neither did the administration or Bush himself (I believe we may have established they were lying, but you continue to cloud the issue) and the crazy liberal media simply reported the official denials...

....so I guess only you ARMCHAIR TACTICAL EXPERTS are to BLAME for this GREVIOUS BREECH OF SECURITY and endangering the president's big fat naked smirking head, which now, because of your irresponsible rumor-milling, EVERYONE REALIZES IS TOTALLY UNPROTECTED!!!

Anne Coulter will probably want you hanged, right up there next to Geraldo Rivera.
:W:

And now, we watch, with great amusement, as the conservative republican TEAM, secure in their collective triumph over the evil liberals, begin to turn on themselves over a completely moot issue.

Thats right!!!!!!!!! You and your liberal whiny partners NEVER said it was a vest. No you just pissed and moaned about this moot fucking issue, then made false accusations and ridiculous fictional claims to all kinds of bullshit devices until someone had to stop the rumors from getting out of control and pacify your inane infantile whining with what the damn bulge actually was.

Sanity is starting to slip from you faster and faster, your posts are practically incoherent. Moot Issue???? Its all this BB offers..

Ramona_A_Stone 08-11-04 08:09 PM

You know I can't argue that it's a shame that not everyone can keep their heads as firmly buried up their asses as you do, things would certainly go more smoothly. Basic perception is just a bitch ain't it?

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someone had to stop the rumors from getting out of control and pacify your inane infantile whining with what the damn bulge actually was.
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Since when did you get top secret clearance as to the exact type of vest the president wears you trolling fuck...
Prove your claims.. You are claiming first hand knowledge that the president was not ony wearing a vest but what type...
Show us the means to this superior knowledge you claim yet can't prove...

malvachat 09-11-04 03:28 AM

Really?
 
So it was a bullet proof vest.
Was it really?
Is that the truth?
Are you sure?
Are you positive?
I wish,I wish I could be so trusting.
"There's no place like home,there's no place like home"
"Home on the range"
That is.
:D

multi 09-11-04 04:32 AM

it sort of outlived its entertainment value..:hmm:
whatever it was it didnt make the top 10

The Ten Worst Media Distortions of Campaign 2004

1. Dan Rather’s Forgery Fiasco
2. Ignoring, Then Attacking, the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth
3. Pounding the Bush National Guard Story
4. Spinning a Good Economy into Bad News
5. The Networks’ Outrageous Convention Double-Standard
6. Swooning Over Edwards’ Image, Ignoring His Liberalism
7. CBS’s Byron Pitts Promotional Kerry Coverage
8. CBS Promotes Fears of a New Military Draft
9. Misrepresenting the 9/11 Commission on Iraq/al-Qaeda Links
10. Equating New Terrorism Warning to LBJ’s “Gulf of Tonkin”

http://www.mediaresearch.org/press/2...ss20041028.asp

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a troll looking to disagree with every anal thing you can find.
LOL

albed 09-11-04 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by jcmd62
the prez. wears a damn vest in public, and not some lightweight handgun only vest...Hell no that is a state of the art fully armoured concealed vest with steel plates protecting as much as possible vital areas from high powered rifles.

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Originally Posted by jcmd62
Since when did you get top secret clearance as to the exact type of vest the president wears you trolling fuck.

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Originally Posted by jcmd62

Prove your claims.. You are claiming first hand knowledge that the president was not ony wearing a vest but what type. Whether it did or didn't have trauma plates over vital areas.....

I've never seen even Ramona create so much bullshit out of thin air. It seems you splash most of it back on your own ass. Can you make even more and answer yourself?

RoBoBoy 09-11-04 08:05 AM

I find it odd that the questions were not addressed during the campaign. I think the notion that the secret service didn't want people to know GW wore a vest is invalid. Who wouldn't consider or believe he wears a vest in public.

It might be a vest but if you look at the pictures, you'll notice a distinct line running from the top right, up an over the shoulder. It looks a lot like a chord of sorts to me rather than a strap. And if it's a vest, shouldn't there or wouldn't there be that same strap running over the left shoulder. All vests I've seen fit much higher on the back. This particular "vest" leaves the most critical area of the spinal.

http://images.salon.com/news/feature...ulge/story.jpg

Maybe some of you "in the know" about vests could provide us theorists with a link to the vest that has a single corded strap like the one worn bY GW in these pictures.

daddydirt 09-11-04 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by multi
The Ten Worst Media Distortions of Campaign 2004

1. Dan Rather’s Forgery Fiasco
2. Ignoring, Then Attacking, the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth
3. Pounding the Bush National Guard Story
4. Spinning a Good Economy into Bad News
5. The Networks’ Outrageous Convention Double-Standard
6. Swooning Over Edwards’ Image, Ignoring His Liberalism
7. CBS’s Byron Pitts Promotional Kerry Coverage
8. CBS Promotes Fears of a New Military Draft
9. Misrepresenting the 9/11 Commission on Iraq/al-Qaeda Links
10. Equating New Terrorism Warning to LBJ’s “Gulf of Tonkin”

http://www.mediaresearch.org/press/2...ss20041028.asp

the full story http://www.mediaresearch.org/projects/worst/welcome.asp

JackSpratts 09-11-04 11:07 AM

"I’m talking about the establishment media, not Fox."

ha ha. as the media organ practically of the republican party nothing could be more establishment than fox. it's way past time these whining republcons stopped portraying themselves as poor and oppressed underdogs and started acting like the ruling elite they really are.

- js.

Mazer 09-11-04 07:49 PM

This thread should be closed.

RoBoBoy 09-11-04 09:16 PM

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This thread should be closed.

I'd bet the GW admin wishes it was as simple as that. Making the controversy go away.

I'd also assume they simpy ignore it if they aren't interested.

Mazer 09-11-04 10:50 PM

It's not the controversy I'm objecting to here. The topic is a fine topic to discuss in this forum, and the discussion was following through nicely until a week ago. Now it has been trolled to death, and the biggest disappointment is that a few established, respected members of this board are the trolls. :no:

Is everyone quite finished? Have you gotten this childshness out of your system yet, because if you havn't I'd appreciate it if you took it to Forum Camp where it belongs. PA belongs to everyone, it's unmoderated, and this one thread is a blight on an otherwise healthy topical forum. By all means continue to speak your minds, but please be respectful too.

I'm trying not to be oversensitive here. This is the first really negative thread this forum has seen in a year and it's entirely excusable. Just don't make a habit out of it, alright guys?

miss_silver 09-11-04 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Mazer
It's not the controversy I'm objecting to here. The topic is a fine topic to discuss in this forum, and the discussion was following through nicely until a week ago. Now it has been trolled to death, and the biggest disappointment is that a few established, respected members of this board are the trolls. :no:

Is everyone quite finished? Have you gotten this childshness out of your system yet, because if you havn't I'd appreciate it if you took it to Forum Camp where it belongs. PA belongs to everyone, it's unmoderated, and this one thread is a blight on an otherwise healthy topical forum. By all means continue to speak your minds, but please be respectful too.

I'm trying not to be oversensitive here. This is the first really negative thread this forum has seen in a year and it's entirely excusable. Just don't make a habit out of it, alright guys?


No thread shoud be closed unless a member has lost a lot of feathers to a troll and bitched about it, is that the case?

IMO, the elections were "fixed" Kerry conceded too quickly for my taste and beside, vote for Bush or Kerry would be voting for Skull & Bones... Both are initiates of the order. No Americans had a choice this time. Heard on the news that Kerry intended to stay in the picture, for a long time. According to some sources, will post them later, he intends to run in 2008.

Hope Skull will not win in 2008.

Mazer, some of us peeps like to beat a dead horse, why not let it be?

Ice 10-11-04 02:30 AM

What America REALLY NEEDS .......is jcmd62 to run for president. All the bleeding heart... wishy washy ....mamby pamby ....pc correct clones would be sorted out in a flash! Hell I would even move over there just to vote for him. Opps! no I can't without having to go thru a major drama............seems America is hellbent on keeping people out..........they don't want any more terrorists in their country as its already full of the bastards. But DON'T PANIC .......there is hope..... when GW and his cronies are finished invading other countries blowing innocent folk to oblivion instead of targeting those responsible .........But wait he probably would if he could rely on American intellegence..........but alas as has been demonstrated to the point of despair there isn't any.

albed 10-11-04 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Mazer
It's not the controversy I'm objecting to here. The topic is a fine topic to discuss in this forum, and the discussion was following through nicely until a week ago. Now it has been trolled to death, and the biggest disappointment is that a few established, respected members of this board are the trolls. :no:

Is everyone quite finished? Have you gotten this childshness out of your system yet, because if you havn't I'd appreciate it if you took it to Forum Camp where it belongs. PA belongs to everyone, it's unmoderated, and this one thread is a blight on an otherwise healthy topical forum. By all means continue to speak your minds, but please be respectful too.

I'm trying not to be oversensitive here. This is the first really negative thread this forum has seen in a year and it's entirely excusable. Just don't make a habit out of it, alright guys?

Stay out of it then you whiney brat.

Aren't you suppose to be researching the Supreme Court like you promised you lying little shit.
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Maybe you should study psychology to figure out why you need to make up lies all the time to try to impress people.

Ramona_A_Stone 10-11-04 09:08 AM

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This thread should be closed.
It's still the funniest single thread in a long time as far as I'm concerned, I've literally laughed until I cried and I've barely even begun to wring material out of it, and obviously neither have some others:

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What America REALLY NEEDS .......is jcmd62 to run for president.
ROTFLMAO

I've been having such a good time with it that it almost makes me forget to remember to fear the ludicrous clowns that it's about and all their little followers who can actually take them seriously.

jcmd62 11-11-04 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Ice
What America REALLY NEEDS .......is jcmd62 to run for president. All the bleeding heart... wishy washy ....mamby pamby ....pc correct clones would be sorted out in a flash! Hell I would even move over there just to vote for him.

I always said that Ice was the brains of this operation. When your right your right.:f:

Truth is America needs to abandon this bullshit Two-party electoral system. So citizens can have a more diverse selection of possible cadidates. The system has dissolved into nothing more than the two guys that swindle the most money out its voters becoming the ONLY 2 choices you have for President.

Everything in America has evolved, been improved, old items modernized, out of date items upgraded. Everything we utilize changes almost daily to keep up with our own human evolution of not just biological changes but so much more importantly tehnological changes. From Q-Tips to Spacecraft if it gets out-dated or can be improved in the slightest of ways we CHANGE it.

NOt that fukin out dated Constitution or the other antiquated artifact The Bill of Rights. Not our existing laws, or worthless election process, Oh we attempt to "improve" how to "cast" a vote, but goddamn if we'll improve how those votes work. Our government is still operating under ideals and principles of Men born 250 years ago. Men that had no clue as to the amazing speed at which this country would practically leap into the future almost overnight. These men were brilliant in their day, but could no way plan for the changes this country would see, nor could they imagine the horrors that peaceful man could be capable of.

Someday our government and its policies, laws will be upgraded and improved right along with the technology and luxury items. Unfortunately I won't see it.


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