Putin planning to glue together the most powerful superpower coalition in the world
Russian President Putin planning to glue together the most powerful superpower coalition in the world - India, China, Russia and Brazil
Russian President Putin is taking a lead role in putting together the most powerful coalition of regional and superpowers in the world. The coalition consists of India, China, Russia and Brazil. This will challenge the superpower supremacy of America as well as the European Union. this coalition will have an overwhelming influence over the United Nations. Russia and China are permanent members of the security council. India and Brazil are in the process of becoming the same. In terms of population, the coalition will have three quarters of the world population, largest amount of natural resources and largest pool of technical and scientific talent. http://sf.indymedia.org/news/2004/11/1706084.php Get ready for the cold war again. At least I hope its not hot. |
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Putin rattled his sabre more today. http://www.moscowtimes.ru/stories/2004/11/18/001.html Russia's defense industry is developing a new nuclear missile system that will be second to none in the world, and the armed forces will have it in their arsenal in the near future, President Vladimir Putin told a meeting of the military top brass Wednesday. What is he trying to say? |
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we may be working things out vis a vis decentralized/leaderless political movements but we're second to none when it comes to dealing with centralized states. russia can try what it might but the us will kick it's ass completely if it steps over the line. that wannabee tin horn dictator putin is insane if he thinks he can take us on, china or no china. we handle stuff like this before breakfast, and we do it with gusto, or will that is if bush has the balls to take his eyes off putin's "soul" and stare the bastard down.
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China army is growing and is intact, aka, no soldiers are loosing their lives for a desperate cause. They are biting their time, waiting, while growing in numbers, also in need of oil. Since the afgan & iraque invasion, it's clear the US is hellbent on securing the oil supply, what will be left for russia & china? India is prolly in the plot because the pakistan is also a lapdog of the Bush adm. Putin prolly feel that only 1 superpower is a big threath, I sure feel the same way. If it happens, the US will prolly go 'pre'emtive on this one. Wouldn't be surprised but wouldn't be wise either. |
you will break your teeth on that !
dont want to sound picky ms.
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MWHAHAAAHAAA...we have new bigger better WMD's !
"I am sure that they will be put in service within the next few years and, what is more, they will be developments of the kind that other nuclear powers do not and will not have,"
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****NEWSFLASH**** Russia has the second largest oil reserves in the world. Saudia Arabia is first. Quote:
Also During the past 50 years, China's oil and gas industries have attained rapid growth. The country's output of crude oil reached 170 million tons last year from 120,000 tons in 1949, with an average annual growth of 13.8 per cent. Yield of natural gas reached 35 billion cubic metres in 2003, increasing 15.7 per cent year-on-year. There was also talk about a pipeline running from Russia to China before the Iraqi War. I don't know what has come out of it. Saying the US is --US is hellbent on securing the oil supply, what will be left for russia & china?-- Is so wrong I don't know where to start, well I guess the quotes above are the tip of the iceberg. |
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5.9 million barrels/day in 2002 It doesn't seem enough for the US population, hence the need to import oil from other countries. Quote:
China population is growing fast and even tho they produce oil, they too still need to import oil from other countries. Think again if you believe that Russia can supply China, India, Japan, Korea... Why dou you think Japan sent troops to Iraq? to help secure their oil supply, as much as the US. It's a long read but here's an article from the Centre for Research on Globalisation. Quote:
What is truly odd about this oil securing is that, it almost leaves no place to develop alternative solutions for oil consumption. There are plenty solutions that can replace the oil based economy, that would be environment friendly, but of course, researching and putting this initiative forward would costs millions, hek, billions of $$$ for that matter... But it seems more profitable to spend those billions of $ on war that is leading nowhere fast. |
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The USA is not number 3 when it comes to the Largest Oil Reserves of the World, the USA may be number 3 when it comes to Oil Production. Sorry, I will not read junk from some anti-American conspiracy theory site. Some other articles from there: Media Cover-up of US War Crimes in Iraq A War Crime in Real Time: Obliterating Fallujah The Collapse of the WTC on 9/11: The Melting of Steel Components Refuted US massacres civilians in Fallujah "How I Stole Your Election" by George W. Bush Kerry Won... Here are the Facts Grand Theft Election |
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"the SPR provides the President with a powerful response option should a disruption in commercial oil supplies threaten the U.S. economy." Wonder what that means? What would be a powerful response option should disruption happen the US oil supply? A war? Quote:
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What's wrong with these articles? It happened and was caught on tape. Fallujah shooting a 'war crime' U.S. probes shooting at Fallujah mosque Quote:
The Facts are there, the city is being leveled, innocents are dying, children lost limbs due to the incessent bombing... And these childrens will grow up HATING americans and spread their hatred upon others, have no doubt. Quote:
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Lol @ Sinner. You need to learn to let rambling retards alone.
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waht the fuck ?
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Just can't seem to fear a guy named Putin. Besides Alex Putin just doesn't have that Russian ring to it.
Mikhail Sergeyevich Gorbachov.......Now thats a Russian Name.. Putin sounds more like what you'd call that mark on Gorby's head. And you cant be a real Russian Big wig without a cute nickname like Gorby. Oooohhhhh Alex Putin.....scarey stuff......I know how about Rasputin? Nah sorry Alex your no Rasputin. |
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Propagandists use a variety of propaganda techniques to influence opinions and to avoid the truth. Quote:
Sure War could be one of a thousand ideas they have. But War with who? OH MY GOD!!! Canada is the largest exporter of oil to the USA.....They are going to invade CANADA EH!!!!!!!!!!!!!! RUN Quote:
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You should try something less irritating, like plucking your nose hairs maybe.
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Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin LOL @ muti's photochop albeds loves us and can't get enough abuse maybe hes a sadomasochist :SP: |
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And for the record, Germans don't particularly like Americans - or why do you thing our chancellor Gerhard "America can kiss mine and Jacque's asses" Schroeder won the last election? Ever since George Bush became president, anti-Americanism became really en-vogue in most of Europe. I don't think the Japanese can stand you very much either, - but then again the Japanese can't really stand anyone except for the Japanese. The difference between Iraq and Germany in 1945 is that it was pretty undeniable that the Germans had been the bad guys, we started the war, we "solved" the Jew problem and all our neighbours hated us, - even the Austrians because *they* never had any part in anything. Iraq on the other hand didn't start the war. The other Arab countries, the Europeans and most of the world media is telling them, that they are the victims. And if you read the press here or elsewhere, you will read about the American crimes against Iraq and you will read that Al-Sarkawi beheaded half a dozen Iraqi soldiers and that it is all America's fault. The Iraqis are going to hate you, the rest of the world will make sure of that. |
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I am playing advocatus diaboli here, but really, watching the U.S. screw itself in Iraq is kind of entertaining. |
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The fact you actually think that a soldier who commits a war crime should be held accountable because, lets face it...he is an American, that was in a foriegn land under orders from his government, but the guerillas that are targeting, kidnapping, beheading innocent civilians and soldiers alike should be excused for their war crimes because they are not of a "proper state"???? <--Liberal rhetoric for, Because YOU personally don't SUPPORT what America's doing in Iraq so instead of murdering criminals these heroes are in your twisted realm of reality "FREEDOM FIGHTERS". Murder is murder you moronic retard, a war crime is a war crime regardless who commits it. Theres no difference, only your sick and twisted perception. This ludicrous reasoning speaks volumes for your obvious lack of sanity and connection with reality. Quote:
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strange, i always thought the stuckup conservative fuks where the anal ones..
i am sure you can make it fit bill for either.. if you cant comment without making some personal slur..stfu |
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Why don't you comment on the topic instead of the people discussing it. Forget it; way over your head no doubt. |
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your posts remind me of a peice of dogshit that i have step around on the pavement thats about the only input i see from you in this forum.. why do ppl have to stoop to childish name calling.. especialy to new members. damn conservative egomaniacs.. if your heads where anymore up your asses you would be licking your own eyeballs.. :f: of course i think.. its about time other countries got together to oppose the monopoly on world power that gives the US and israel the right do what they like in the middle-east... its far from entertaining though..more like an embarrasing attempt to persuade the western world there is some sort of war going on.. if anything ..one they have created by targeting muslims and deciding their holy sites are good places to invade and occupy over the last century or so.. |
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There goes that damn jc picking on the new guys again. Jeez multi you act like he was just born. Its obvious the idiot has some pretty fucked up and rather ill conceived views of reality. Further more I don't see him worrying about any seniority you think seems to exist around here. :BL: Could have sworn Gaz set up this forum for the sole purpose of childish name calling and pretty much everything else that isn't allowed in Mambyland. Maybe you need to go make another post about how shocked and outraged you were at the latest celebrity nipple flash. No doubt there is a real issue that needs to be addressed and given the countries full undivided attention. WTF are we going to do about these trashy sluts flashing their tits??? Really what the hell is this world coming to???????? People like greggy getting their jollies watching young men and women dying, and grown men like multi actually bitching because some celebrity bared her tit. Shits sake..free titty shot and you old fucks are screaming slut, whore, trash and bitching about the quality of her boob job like you just had yours enhanced. |
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If I would say, there were n-thousand deaths as Al-Jazeera (or whatever other source I would come up with) reported it, you could say no, there weren't because Fox News reported something else. I would say you source isn't trustworthy, you would say mine isn't and you would have no way of proving to me and others what you believe is the truth. Quote:
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anyway i havent even posted in that thread unlike you and albed.. hang on i must go read it :f: ffs..i dont even know who this reid chick is.. but anyway i am sure you could get me on much lamer topics i have posted about wich is beside the point and doesnt effect what ever i might post here..sif i give a shit anyway..you know you could call me anything its much more effective if you try it on every new person on the forum that turns up because you know how ppl will react most of the time.. ie. find a subject on the forum peeps are passionate about (eg.napster) start a thread bashing it (eg NAPSTERSMAPSTER#x) call them theives ..etc you have the seniority no doubt there... (you are one of the few ppl that ofcourse stick in ones memory from that blur that was the napster forum) how long you been doing this shit ? but as much as it may annoy you.. i must say i always have liked you & your posts no matter how venomous they may get sometimes your posts when you dont vicimize and sterotype carry a lot more weight imo..but thats just my opinion anyway i believe this place is pretty good at moderating itself...if a new conservative member was getting attacked by us wishy washy lefties, i would expect you to jump in and say lay off on the personal attack to get your point across..too i didnt mean to take this off topic..my apologies to the others posting in this thread |
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97% of news is usualy a mix of something tragic ,avoidable ,sad ..ect
how entertained by all this comes down to how people deal with that on a personal level...often a sense of humour helps to blot out some of the real bad stuff othertimes you can find yourself really empathizing with what ever has happened..this thing has many variables.. people get comfortable with how they deal with things..far from pyschopathic its probably healthier to have sense of humor or empathizing without connecting too emotionaly when objectifying it people protect themselves from it by putting it all at a distance from themselves. This allows them to see the other people as things or objects that can be treated without having to consider their feelings..all well and good but imoleads people into negitive belief systems wich induce stress..sickness..etc nearly all of us came away from our TV's on 911 shocked and bewildered was it entertainment ? an extreme example but it was riveting television..the 1990 gulf war..people didnt leave their TV's for days watching that..same with the recent invasion hell.. i even remember JFK assasination stopping regular programming that day to cover that big world events tend to get lots of airplay |
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First, you seem to assume that you can identify any lie. You cannot. Most information you receive, can not be verified by yourself. If it appears likely enough, you will just believe it. And if you wait just long enough, most of the information won't even be physically verifiable. For all we know, the ancient cultures of Rome, Egypt or Greece may have been made up by someone else. Since that does not appear likely, we believe what historical documents and artifacts tell us about Rome, Egypt and Greece. Second, you seem to believe that people prefer the truth over a good lie. They don't. Lies can often be much easier to understand and to accept as the truth. Why do you think people believe in God? Do we have any proof that he exists? No. Does it seem even likely that he exists, according to science? No. So - logically - God is most probably a lie. Yet so many people firmly believe that there is a God. They do so for many reasons but basically it is just convenient for them if there is a God, a form of higher justice, a legitimation for their own actions and a deeper meaning of life. People choose a reality that appears likely they call it truth and call anyone who refuses it a liar. |
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Truth and reality aren't matters of opinion, they have established defintions and standards of proof. You can claim otherwise but you've already begun demonstrating what your opinion is worth. |
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You use your personal experience (something highly subjective, also far from absolute), to identify liars - you have some profile and if somebody fits that profile (the way he talks, the way he looks, you will most likely be unable to identify what exactly is so suspicious about him), he has to be a liar. You claim to use logic, I doubt that. I will give you an example: Your neighbour says an flying saucer landed in his backyard last night. You look outside and you see the backyard the way you remember it from yesterday without any kind of UFO. And nobody else saw or heard anything either. What does logic tell you here? Logic tells you that either your neighbour doesn't tell the truth or that the UFO simply landed while nobody else was looking. The second possibility may seem less probable than the first according to your experience but logic itself will not prefer one possibility over another. In order to use logic to identify truth, you would at least need some other truth (and not just any truth - 'cogito ergo sum' is not sufficient) to start with, but you are judging based on your own experience - and your experience has nothing to do with the absolute truth, it is based on what you see and on what you remember and on what you WANT to remember. Quote:
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Gregorio, since you're new here, allow me to help you out and save you some time.
Your epistemological arguments, as applied to the P2P Zone's poster-child for homeland insecurity, are entirely futile. Below are a few excerpts from The Book of Albedisms: Quote:
Therefore, if you're really into providing stimulus for other people's masturbation, I know of some much better looking guys than albed who have webcams and will drop the tiresome quasi-intellectual pretense altogether. Barring that, you might just want to stick to communication with the adults here. |
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Try the underground, if you dare ;) Welcome gregorio! :WW: |
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are flour jokes frowned upon? just say the safe word at any time :D and hi gregorio, welcome to the asylum, where views seldom change and logic means little. but we have alot of fun with it. :tu: right albed? |
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So, what do you actually know about reality or the truth? Nothing. You can assume that what you remember was really the way you remembered it. You can assume what you see is some glimpse of reality. But consider this, you are meeting an old friend from school, you talk about a particular event of which either of you has a slightly different memory. You have to admit that stuff like that happens occasionally, - how will you ever find out that your memory serves you right? Given all this, do you really think, you know the truth or reality? Isn't it possible that you are wrong and I am right? And I am going to tell you, you are wrong. I am right. And I'm not going to prove it to you, because I can't, as well as you can't prove the opposite. But I can argue that my explanation of the world is much more plausible than yours and therefore we should agree that it is true until somebody comes up with a better explanation. |
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That's absolutely priceless. Actually, in my opinion, the epithet 'weak minded and irrational' pretty much applies by definition to anyone who believes there's a big invisible man in the sky who's going to judge them when they die, but aside from that, since one of the basic tenets of most religions is thou shall not bear false witness, if they further lie about their beliefs, we have at best 'many' raging hypocrites here, if not candidates for reality therapy. Also, if they lie about their beliefs, it would be pretty obviously weak minded and irrational of these supposed 'scientific studies' to subsequently qualify the veracity of their claim that they are liars, but aren't lying about lying, as some sort of viable statistic. If you've 'studied psychology' you probably already know all about wish fulfillment, and your belief that such 'scientific studies' even exist is exactly that. But of course it's entirely reasonable for you to invoke phrases such as 'scientific studies' when you're really only referring to unsubstantiated opinions and half-baked speculations to support this idea that you have a greater ability to discern the truth than anyone else. After all, that basic contention couldn't possibly get any more ludicrous even if you tried. Quote:
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So you've decided to join my audience after all and attempt to provide masturbation stimulous along with tiresome quasi-intellectual pretense.
It sure isn't stimulating to me; try talking dirty. If someone's lying about a professed belief that prohibits lying then it's a perfectly rational and reinforcing indication that that person doesn't really believe what they've professed. duh Also, like I posted before, and you didn't understand, to learn the truth you study people's behaviour free from peer pressure and contrast it with their professed beliefs. If someone switches religions or privately violates basic tenents of a professed religion it's strong evidence that their true beliefs aren't what they've claimed. I personally know plenty of people who pay lip service (not what you're thinking) to their religion, attend the functions and go through the rituals, and are no more religious than I am. |
...and since you claim that these seemingly fluffy little bits of offhand pseudo-knowledge are based on scientific studies, no doubt by reputable organizations judged by you as adhering to such high standards, you'll now have no trouble at all producing evidence of them, as I'm sure they must be lying around on your desk at this very moment, artifacts testifying to your vast, ongoing and rigorous research of human psychology.
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Wow! You're even more of a fan than I thought. I've actually got 2 dozen minimized pages on my desktop along with a couple locked up ones from chasing psychology links. Still interesting and still plenty to learn. I'll keep an eye out for studies.
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Don't feel bad, a lot of novices mistake scientism for true science like that, especially if they're not particularly bright or have some kind of impulsive agenda obliterating their objectivity. But I have little doubt that if you google it hard enough you can find something to support any lying burst of gas that was designed to create the illusion that you were actually in possession of some superior form of knowledge. As quite possibly your biggest fan, I can't wait to see what you might come up with, but my money is actually on you making a few more snide and beside the point comments and then slinking off like you never really got your ass handed to you at your own petty game. |
Nag, nag, nag....you are the worst masturbation stimulus on the internet.
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Yeah, a search for "religion, lying and statistics" would certainly turn up those pages, unfortunately the words lie or lying are only mentioned three times in a very oblique way that neither has anything to do with your argument that 'many people lie about their beliefs', nor is anything but purely speculatory rhetoric appraising the meaning of statistics with a preconceived distinction that the nature of a person's god concept plays a role in the meaning of religion, qualifications that are nowhere to be found in the data being approached, and hardly represent 'scientific studies.'
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If this is what you consider science, it's no wonder your view of the world is so damned comical. |
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