Re: WASTE
 

yes sith it's very stable, i know of groups on that long or longer too. i've been on a small one (7-14 users) that's been running continuosly since the evening of june 8th. i'm in and out, on sometimes for a few hours, sometimes for a few days, but the group maintains cohesion and accessibility. sharing is minimal and so is open chat but it seems to go and go. maintenence isn't an issue. what is tho is initial connectivity. we're finding more and more users who have not been able to make that first connection, and we don't know why.

- js.

:e:

Sorry Folks -

I'm having problems and tried re-installing waste, so my public key has changed. The new one is:

WASTE_PUBLIC_KEY 20 1536 Drakonix
C825D67E88771695B6E2CD9CD47EE2097646FB6420C067029A98CF64C59C
7331106698CDA81FD8293D6FEB72BBE8AEB81ABFC0E5BCE0E88E85C3F3A1
39817E86860E05945431CA64F9A0B46A9A1DB76AF22B5182BB9FD2278A4B
CE451B52610E09315FDD5ABF7B5DF107ACACED1B210AD18AE70CD37AB1AE
8ADCEBEFAE925F0F8B131C99C941A9EB04D61D26D9EA2CEB566EE2F1C6E1
9DE8B7F9F9BBE308636465E3FC3BBCD0844C8604311853A33E4A23D3DC36
86B5F68073755B9D947F9D530003010001
WASTE_PUBLIC_KEY_END

[quote]Originally posted by Drakonix
[b]:e:

Sorry Folks -

I'm having problems and tried re-installing waste, so my public key has changed.
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I'm certain, (at best) that all is done and entered right, but no connection yet either... I'll just keep trying and watching to see if anyone can figure this out.

PS Drak I love your caption:

<snip>
Copyright means the copy of the CD burned with no errors.
<end snip>

:tu: :tu:

It's weird, the way some people can connect and others can't. I noticed the first time I logged on I couldn't connect to pod even though I had his key and IP address. I had to connect to Jack's IP because I knew that he had my key. But now every time I log in I connect to pod's computer first, within a second or two of starting the program.

It must be in the way keys are propagated throught the network. A person on the net could import an other person's key, but that key will not be propagated until that person logs in. If you give your key to one person but try to connect to an other person you won't be able to. In our case, even though Jack is acting spokesman of the network, you'd have to give your key to pod before you try to connect to him. Or else Jack would have to publish his IP number and stay connected all the time.

What this program needs is the ability to assign one computer to act as a keyserver, and any time someone imports a new key then that key would be sent directly to the keyserver so it could accept incomming connections from the new user. Though I imagine this would make the network more vulnurable to intrusion: there would be a publicly known, non-firewalled portal that could be hacked, DoSed, or otherwise shut down. The network would still remain if that node was disconnected, but it would not grow very quickly unless a new keyserver was assigned.

Re: WASTE
 

Well PPPTTTTT :p

No doubt that's my problem:sus:

Yup, that's how it appears to work. I go through this thread every so often and add keys of people I recognize, so you'll eventually connect to me.

Yep yep..me too..try gatekeeper.naphoria.com..


Ð :S:

:AP: :AP:

Yeah!!!

I see:

-=:multi:=-
daddydirt
Diego
doggie
floydianslip
HellBound
JackSpratts
pod
relic
the knife

Now what do I do:PO: No wait.....I think I've got it :)

Whoa!! Gimmie room!!!

jade's got da speed...fastest d/l i've seen on Waste...yup, you gotta get a bigger hard drive:BL:

edit: she got as high as 48 then i lost her...crash and burn?:PO:

Finally - I'm in
 

I finally made it in.

Thanks Multi, JackSpratts, Dawn, everyone that helped.

aw frig...were you trying to get something from me...I shut down...stupid me...I have to check and make sure that I ain't cuttin' no one off...that might have been my fault sorry Knife:AF:

Is that what happened:PO:

Glad you guys made it.

Btw, is there any harm in leaving waste on 24/7?

Re: Finally - I'm in
 

well. i can see him in the main window, i can browse him, but he doesn't appear in the network status window and i can't d/l from him...:PO:

:m:

Re: Finally - I'm in
 

I can't download either.

Does the same thing it did when i was downloading from knife.

Check your settings. Make sure Limit to 2 files at once is checked in preferences/sending is checked.

when we unchecked that during a long download it stalled everything.

HellBound

Re: Finally - I'm in
 

you're welcome drax! :ND:

and you've got the ventures christmas album (@320 no less). how cool is that. :tu:

we've got to fix your share thing.

- js.

got your key in greedy..

good 1 jade and drax..looking forward to having a chat sometime..

even on dial up left it on 24/7
it reconnect straight away..
staying connected to it..is what sort of keeps it together..

i dont think pod has disconnected once from this thing..:) well not that i remember..

i sometimes leave for 4-5 hrs now and then..usually to sleep or go out..
but i think if ppl are out getting stuff on another app..they should be able to feel free to ask someone on waste to abort a download for a while..(i mean we are all friends here..) and sometimes timing can be bad...;)
then send that file back so it resumes..or goes in that users queue when they have finished getting the file from one of other networks..

but nicking off to grabs stuff is ok too the persons file will resume the moment you come back..

greedy - walk towards the light;)

Thanks for the reports.

I looked at the preferences/sending/limit setting and it was unchecked. I have it checked and at 2 now.

Try it again.



Edit:

Looks like that was it! the knife is downloading from me now.

Hmmm. something still amiss if you see Ventures Christmas songs at 320.

The only Ventures track that is actually 320 is Hawaii Five-O.

The Ventures Christmas stuff is VBR or 128. Maybe waste is mis-interpreting the VBR files as 320.

welcome new users...enjoy the music.

320 or vbr, a ventures christmas is still the coolest. :)

- js.

It's bloody cool over here tonight too Jack.........Just thought I would share that with u :)

:BL:

so are you coming back ?

go toward the light and turn left...

WASTE_PUBLIC_KEY 20 1536 ranger121
DA18FC67E91C937194657811F1C7AB9D60889524451108F3A496883FAF0A
CAE63E963BAFB1CA11CC44605E4F731C15967DC7C69D816762CB6E1305E4
9472AEF301C1CF78737437FA65875FA032E889B34878DF7E56FE7EB84725
1B496C5DE7D2A35BB92609430430795294E459709E9F0DF0025510F0D956
CB94CE3234F2201922E663CB73E2FFA0798E876133E7D8453BF0EB537845
C589F05D1D670F93AE4AB1C045F0F3E7A5E9645433E6B10A1AEF34920FC5
CB6717A236FA83440E4275F90003010001
WASTE_PUBLIC_KEY_END


Sorry, people, had to change it: not enough storge on the first computer..

I read this thread, but think I'm missing something: can't connect!

I have your key in now, try to connect.

Type waste.drakonix.org (or another IP in this thread) in the box at the top of the network status window. If the network status window isn't open, you can open it by clicking on the icon on the upper left of the main waste window just below the "File" menu item.

PM me or someone in this thread for the network name if you do not have it.

Thanks to all who helped: I've now got a connection.

10 Gigs (ish) of music, and the zip files are complete Sunfly disks, for those of you who like to be karaoke singers.

I'll leave it on until it crashes..

I Want In Please
 

Been reading your posts on Waste,sounds awesome if more people get involved.Don't want to say how much stuff I got,I'll just put it this way.Have almost 4 hard drives filled up,totaling around 300 gb.Please somebody get back to me so they can walk me through this,very interested,getting scary out there.

Welcome to the forum Taz. :W:

I did try Waste, but decided it wasn't for me. Sorry I can't help.

Stick around tho, there are lots of helpful people here.

I take it you are a guy?

Yes Maam
 

Just trying to be funny hope I didn't offend

Re: Yes Maam
 

Didn't offend me one bit. But The Underground forum may be a more appropriate place to post a pic like that. ;)

Sorry
 

Wasn't aware of the rules,sorry again,still learning

Re: I Want In Please
 

hi taz, welcome to the napsterites p2p-zone! :beer: you can start your own network up in no time - many members here have, and you'll find it a lot more reassuring when the people you connect with are known to you personally.

get the program out to 1 friend, exchange ips, name the network (or don't - it's optional) and get connected. spread the word to those you especially trust and before you know it you'll be experiencing secure environment p2p. it’s an interesting feeling. :tu:

- js.

hi taz..welcome to the forum!

sorry u didnt like it dawn :(
anybody....that uses it, i was wondering what ppl have seen in it that needs to fixed/improved(i will try and compile a list of stuff to post somewhere they are makeing upgrades to it..)

so what would be good in this program...?

being able to swarmload the same file from different users ..sort of goes with out saying...

being able to pause dowloads is another obvious one..

more accuracy in thed/l u/l speeds would be nice..

having any existing chatrooms show up in the main window when you first connect like the users do..
instead of 2 hrs later...:)

i have spotted a few more ...but cant think of them right now....

We're baaaaaaaack :D:D:D:D:tu: :tu:

Ahhhhhh, the joys of homecoming!

:BP:

not to mention the joy of leaving South Jersey:BL:

welcome back, Goldie:W:

:beer: wb goldy! :):tu:

- js.

Could everyone go to their options under File Transfers, and check the 'Try to bring up direct connection' option? I think it's off by default. Unless you'd rather not do that, of course :p

getting swamped? :D

i've been doing that for over a week. i notice it says "try to bring up direct connection..." i guess it isn't always able to. but i wonder if that's because both parties have to choose the option or if something else interferes, like firewalls maybe.

- js.

Heh, sort of. I don't really mind, and Waste is capped anyways so it doesn't become a problem (that's why my speed says 'slow dsl' :). But unless you're specifically paranoid, you'll get better speeds (and more reliability too I bet) if you check it.

I think it says 'try' because it depends on several things. Probably both users need to have the option selected. Firewalls are another thing. Then you need to have each others keys.

I'm back on, and adding a few different goodies. :W:

^
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Bump :tu:

Someone having issues...? :RS:

[quote]Originally posted by pod
[b]Someone having issues...? :RS:


Hmmm, :PO: is there anyway of telling if this was me, (or my ferret I should say)...I was away from the puter today and he was dancin' across the keyboard and playing with the mouse.....did my Nikki Taur do that?:eek:

away a few days..playing with nix...(not that any would notice..) :)

diego did u get the linux version of waste to work?

This is weird. It seems like my computer is trying to send the files but they're timing out on the other end so I keep getting new transfer requests. Maybe my 56K modem doesn't like two simultaneous uploads to the same user. In the meantime it's monoploizing every last bit of my bandwidth even though nothing seems to be going through.

Maze, first try aborting any transfer that's not active.

Second, try aborting the duplicate transfers and leave only 1 active ul see if that clears it up.

You may also have to shut down waste then reopen again to see if it sticks - no worries though, it'll resume.

1 particular nasty problem i see with waste
 

if you've done some housekeeping in your shared folders - waste takes foreva to show the changes, regardless of whether you immediately rescan your folders or not!

Don't like that much at all.

did you try just having this ticked while you were doing your sorting...like rescan every 10 mins or something..?
dont know if it would help ..thought it may of been for for something like you were saying..

ah the pic..

hey multi
 

i had the default listing for startup but have since changed to every 300 or so minutes.

Guess i'm just so used to seeing instant results...... :doh:

FYI Reminder: http://gatekeeper.naphoria.com/waste-setup.zip


Ð :S:

ok....
 

im trying to set up a waste network with some freinds, what am i doing wrong here, all i ever get is "connecting" in the network area never "connected" or wahtever is supposed to happen....



im new......thanks!!

Kriz look over your settings. Make sure you're listening. Then have your friends key and IP and he yours and connect to eachother. Then add more people by doing the same.

Everyone on the network should maintain at least two connections to the network.


Ð :S:

hi kriz..
one of you must not have a firewall running..and use that ip to connect to..if u have a firewall on
if u using xp turn off the firewall thats on by default maybe..if you dont seem to running one..

start with no network name/ID
decide on one after you all get connected

thanks
 

i will try that, thanks a lot.....