the public experimental nets are retired, in operation now are strictly by invitation "micronets", started by close pals. some have just 4 or 5 friends. and they all started the same way – one user at a time. don’t wait around for your phone to ring, jump in and make one yourself! :ND:

you can do it– and so can anyone reading this thread - half the fun is starting up your own group. you’ll all get there – you just need one host! :tu:

- js.

a bit of waste info in this forum..
http://www.str8dog.com/?f=32

wasted.....?
anyone game?
http://www.jamwt.com/wasted/builds/

nice link multi. it's exciting to see entire boards devoted to waste. it's kind of amazing actually for me. i shouldn't be too surprised after seeing the activity on this thread (it’s already the 9th biggest in nu history). there is obviously a lot of interest but it's still kind of startling since i keep thinking of waste in smaller, more personal terms, even though i know that in the aggregate it's going to be huge. i mean a few weeks ago nobody had this thing. i had to email copies to people and explain what it was. now there're whole boards exploring in fine detail minor nuances of it's operating platform. it happened so fast!

maybe we can change that adage from “if you build it they will come” to “if you build it they will come really fast!” napster already proved that and winmx and fasttrack and bt, but every time i think interest in p2ps couldn't get stronger, a new one comes along that changes the rules and everybody has to have it all over again.

can’t wait to see what’s coming next. :BB:

- js.

>http://www.str8dog.com/?f=32
I'v been active over there.
Lots of links on in the resources thread.

>90 + GB of stuff for the napsterites!!!!
I started a mesh without a network id, within
a couple of days it amalgamated with half a
dozen others.
The public mesh peaked at 150 simultaneous users and 3.8TB.

Multi, any objection to me distributing your waste installation
guide?

>Who's IP begins with a 172?
Usually people with a 172.16-32.*.* LAN-only ip that
is not reachable across the internet.

NAT support in waste is poor at the moment, it seems
that the force-ip option has to be used to broadcast the
correct internet ip as well as configuring port forwarding.
Waste would work significantly better if it did edonkey style
internet ip detection.

Since it bears repeating;
>With someone's public key, you could decode the
>traffic encrypted using that person's key.
Nope, you need the corresponding private key to
decode traffic.

>in other words, someone could theoretically monitor
>you as an individual, from info gleaned from your>posted public key,
No.

>does anyone know if there is going to be an
>pdate or any kind of upgrade in the near future??
There is a new version called wasted with some minor fix's.

>I already heard rumors of a Linux port being available.
Server only at the moment, no front end for chat/browsing.
>this doesn't do multisource downloading yet, right?
correct.
Bug reports and feature requests are being collected
at http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/waste/
I encourage people on private networks to post a summary
of their waste experiance

>Network chatter is also fairly low
for firewalled people possibly, for open routing nodes
it is large, with files being relayed between
firewalled users the traffic will fill a T1 on a large mesh.

I remember the first public tests of bittorrent some time ago.
I suspect waste activity is going to go quiet for a while, the
early adopters who try out anything new have had a go and
the major work that the waste protocol requires will take time.
My guess it that an improved waste will be massive in a year
or two.

hello and welome to NU
throwaway18....
thats a very interesting place :)

not my guide at all if u compile a how to
from info here.. just give the forum here a mention because everyone was contributing..
the info on the waste networks i got from
http://www.dhorrocks2003.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/
wich i think were salvaged from nullsoft originaly...
i think its early days for waste..
and definatly early days for this type of p2p networking...
seems a few improved clients around already..
:beer:

hi throwaway, thanks for stopping by, i hope you enjoy the forums. i like yours too - i posted a tip! lol.

- js.

I was having a looksie at this one Multi....might give it a whirl :ND: What do u think?


wasted-06172003-0700..>

those look like the nightly releases...
 

i think its just a matter of replacing the waste .exe with this one...

i just tried..
WASTE-wasted-0.12b.exe 09-Jun-2003 04:46 298K
renamed it to WASTE.exe and replaced the original one in the waste folder..
back on the network now, running like nothing had happened..
looking for improvements now..

these are the only 2 visable differences i have noticed so far..

I got it
 

Well I'd call it the Roldengod network, I mean if Gr can set it up with NO documentation, then I just gotta be summat good...

I'm game, got it loaded, got fixed IP, and a re-direct address, just need the right name, and we are there...

Greets all JS, GR , Knife, Multi, Napho (your link is dead Napho?)

etc etc...


:beer: Snark

:AP: :AP:

I'm SO glad to see you here stranger!!!!!!!

Now quit being a stranger :V:

:beer:

i have a feeling we'll be seeing a bit more of him. :)

- js.

hi snark!

it seems from what i am reading it seems to get a bit chaotic over a certain amount of users..
it maybe 50...but from what i can tell 25-30 would be the best bet...over that sounds like it gets a little congested with network traffic..

i'd be interested in the goodies. if someone with the program could pm me, i can give them details on how to get me the file.


edit:

yes google is my friend and i found a copy.

WASTE_PUBLIC_KEY 20 2048 relic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WASTE_PUBLIC_KEY_END


slowly but surely catching on.

i got a few new movies, and am now up to 95 GB of files offered on waste for yall...enjoy!

Fresh meat! Fresh meat!:AP:

I'm trying :o

Dawn & Relic: if you drop into the chat I'll get VNC running and set up your waste for you..it's an option like..


Ð :S:

p.s. watch where you get your waste! The program and the source were both released and some people may alter the code. There is at least two links to waste in this thread, one of which I personally guarantee came from a reputable source and has been edited in no way whatsoever..

relic's on, but i'd love to have a look at Dawn's file stash:BB:

Tis big. ;)

thanks d for the offer but i googled for the program and found a copy. jack also helped me out getting hooked up once i had the proggie. i'm all set to go and have even set up my on waste server for some of my LAN buddies to use. i love this program.

also thanks for The Police D :D

I'll wait for napho (just cause I can fuk things up so bad by myself), but hope to try it soon. :W:

d/l the program..........not a clue where to go from here;(

here's a little tutorial that may help you.

http://www.northarc.com/waste_web/setup.php

I only learned about Waste a few days ago, I don't come in to this forum often enough it seems!

I hope to get it going on my end, I have a few (5) thousand songs I can share, and looking foreward to snooping around in Dawn's stash also.
:CG:

thankyou thankyou to multi, diego and VNC :tu:

all set up now.......;)








( D...consider your butt kissed ;) ) :CG:

Woo Hoo! e-sex! ;) :CG:


Ð :S:

88% waste..?
any one got an idea what that is about?

looks like one of mine multi.

- js.

its the 88%waste thing i aint seem b4...

I'm getting wasted.

WASTE_PUBLIC_KEY 20 1536 Drakonix
9910ED5A1E5999B327F03B0AB46232D7002FF9DBCFA245A6393058CE8874
5007C4FD9EC7378AB012B7BE4F73BE6AB2D8FB91FB017C9350870E9657A1
41B381AF64177AC0D99BAE4E14EC81704C5C56E24BF9A12D0BC9E14BD8B1
E6CB37DDD80ABA2955D7B342F6870AF157E3D356F55081A6219AF9013D87
9D9AC613D1F0503646206F12327AA1CA0523BAA01D7089F689B2C69663C5
7F5FB348E147622EA9A3EAEE48FEB4CF65C5C413438E4285002C3A3A18EC
7D2B1265E2FE44D4079530CB0003010001
WASTE_PUBLIC_KEY_END

waste.drakonix.org

I got wasted ;(

This is an automatically generated message.

Paradise account code: i-c-e
Saturn account number: *******
Our system has detected that you have exceeded your included megabytes on
your cable modem plan for the period 2003-05-29/2003-06-28.

This means additional usage will be charged at 20c per meg for International
traffic and 2c per meg for National traffic.

You can check how much traffic you've used from the traffic usage report.
This is available in the Member Services section of our website.

You glutton. If it's not food it's megabytes! :p
btw That International looks awfully expensive. :shk:

oi! Napho me not even heavy as Dawn :N: (69kg)

............and who said it was me d/loading........ there is a thing called uploads too :ND:

All this posting has given me an urge for a ......snack. :BL:

Then I apologize. :o The way she's been posting about you lately I figured you had to widen your doorways. ;)

NP Napho :beer: ............Hell she has to pick on someone while hubby is away :ND:

I'd just like to say.........
 

WELCOME to waste, DAWN!



:AP: :AP: :beer: :beer: :tu:

hi dawnie! :W:

- js.

things may be improving in oz, isp wise anyway -

- js.

1.5Mbit ADSL drops below $120
Dan Warne

Competition is becoming savage in the broadband market, with price leading ISP Netspace releasing a 1.5Mbit ADSL plan with 8GB of data for the jaw-dropping price of $119.

A 'flat rate' version of the plan is available for the same price, allowing customers to continue using their connection at 56Kbit speeds, even if they have reached their 8GB limit.

The aggressive move by Netspace is likely to trigger a price war at the high end of the ADSL market. Other ISPs are already coming close to Netspace's leading price, with plans ranging from 3GB to 10GB of data from $125/mth upwards.

Netspace Managing Director Stuart Marburg told Whirlpool the plan was profitable, but did not include a 'lot of fat', due to Telstra's high pricing for the physical 1.5Mbit connection.

"What we are really trying to do with this plan is provide options for people who want a fast link, but don't necessarily need huge amounts of data -- although 8GB is quite enough for a lot of people," he said.

Netspace has become popular with the file sharing community due to its free peer- to-peer data.

However it only provides one email address with its broadband services. Mr Marburg said this was under active review at Netspace, but that their team had been focusing on getting the new plan out the door first.

The new Netspace plan may be of interest to customers wanting to migrate off cable, especially Optus users who finally lost NetStats in the last 3 months. The new plan offers the closest speeds possible to cable and 5GB more than Optus or Telstra offer.

Internode also recently boosted value at the low end of the market, bumping up its sub $50 plan to match Netspace's 1GB of included data. It also released a 2GB plan for $59.95, providing a welcome intermediary step between its low end plan and its 4.5GB plan. Netspace offers a similarly priced 2GB plan, but with a bonus 2GB of data to be used in off peak times.
http://whirlpool.net.au/article.cfm/1144

:W:





p.s. Napho, I just have some good natured ribbing going on with Ice :hmm:

'bout time you got wasted Dawnie :BL:

Drak: I've added your key. Goto View and Network Status and enter: gatekeeper.naphoria.com on the top line and click on the (connect) button to the right..

Rooms seldom seem to come up right so someone should list the room(s) available. Remember to list them as #room and not room and properly reflect the existence of capitals..


Ð :S:

Hey, waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaait just a minute mister! According to my conversion, that's about 151 pounds, and I do NOT weigh that much! :f:



Yes D, its much fun to be wasted. :D

Verizon...
 

Ive got verizon DSL its great!

1.5 down 150 up $35.00/month

Unlimited transfer....

to hell with $120 a month:f: :f: :f:

:eek:

down ? ;)
got yr key in there..

Leaving for New Jersey now............see you guys and gals in a week or 2.

Will Miss YA!!!!

:V:

gr

New Jersey huh...make sure your passport's up to date. ;)

Have a great time, but hurry back because we will miss you too! :W:

new jersey? what exit? ha ha ha ha ha ha ha :BL:

have a great trip goldie. if you get near connecticut, look me up. (exit 46). :)


- js.

you guys got the pronunciation all wrong: it's Joisey:doh:

:MAD:

multi uses a router, well he did before he got dsl. i'm pretty sure he still does, but i figure you've been in contact with him anyway.

- so -

what i'd like you to do is send me screen shots of all your waste windows. i know there's a bunch of them but i don't know what else to tell you. i'd like to look at your settings.

- js.

Ok, I got this far so...

WASTE_PUBLIC_KEY 20 1536 vwguy
EFFE4F8888A0E8627313890DEBE30AE6BC094856596A2D30A02BE09DFF00
B6E5C35765AAB41CBBBAD4865B9257EC92B2976708F918CAD3259488EE76
ABF260652496CE8EAB0ACB0259B379276169DEE2E36EFFEAE57B33196AF2
7A93EA05F6519A0C66EA56D45187C2A846CB741F93A2CF2A33C8008CE85B
5B79CBFFF766E9B4FC51144C0F64761D46B30A2EC68945666C6E26C2F441
E40EB5F07D82724C0BEB864C0C015FF233F529E2FAF0330BB02A30A950B5
131E3D4CED59320892E8AE1D0003010001
WASTE_PUBLIC_KEY_END

Hope it works.

just tried reconnecting with my other key..
like i had to set it up from scratch
in a new profile...(waste prefrences>profiles>profile manager)

it takes a while to get in there just leave it connect for a while and come back and check on it..every 5 mins or so..but make sure you have every thing set up in preferences...

if you are on a LAN

in(->msinfo32 in the run box) go to
components>network>adapter
that will have
your LAN IPadress
if you are being assigned one by a DHCP
or if you know already

then in waste prefrences>network>ip adresses
put your machines LAN ip in the force incoming ip to: field
i have use access control list checked
with one ip
0.0.0.0/0


in waste prefrences>network>
network name /ID
napsterites <----for eg.(network doesnt exist)
case sensitive ,dont leave a space after it..:) (this seems to catch a few ppl out so beware!)
note:there is a noname network..kicking about if you can find it..:)

i have route traffic checked both when i used dial up and DSL
i have in the listen port section both checked

everything else in preferences ihave left at default...

try as many ppls ips that you know of that are connected.. ..that seemed to help
u can try peoples domain names was well if they have one..

as well as any ips that you have..
in network status
you only need one person to authorise but get as many keys of the people connected to the network as you can

hope that helps any one trying to connect....:)

:PO: I don't really know what the hell I'm doin' but here is my key:

WASTE_PUBLIC_KEY 20 1536 Jadesun
D87CC3F780D8E9661442F454DC5EA820773F35479AC9C383D5B0DCD91806
25A71235A40F349AB617B12951EF7068CC074DA750BAECFBD0BE47796123
6F4A8BC5FDA1AEBF6ABFA0974842D69C1D976E8026199A0FBC7C2B25C30E
CBA6C3DA513285D6771D7C70217A83F8EC5C81820AC0AA7E3BD2F52D11BC
2879A210D1C8C1CE989663647A9407AA5713178C66A988D26F88CBC92788
850DFF87BFF9C64E25A1C6760250B242FF07E8AABA6BAD61586140277239
1382A59E0D7B6B4DB54F0EB90003010001
WASTE_PUBLIC_KEY_END

How how do I see sumtin:PO:

oh woe is me Network Down, I think.....:PO:

check yer pm.

- js.

WASTE
 

God I love this WASTE prog. I have been connected to a buddy of mine for the last 10 days and we get a constant 30ks ul and dl rate. Havent had a crash or error yet, pretty damn stable if u ask me.

hey sith..did u get my PM....:W: