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I can't link to it but I'm sure our 'Proud Canadian Quebecer' will be glad to provide us a link and gleefully point it out as another one of America's F-ups. |
No worries Nic, here's another if you're interested.. (pretty crappy camera phone effort, but it shows the whole thing.)
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Makes you wonder why it wasn't shot in HDTV quality or hell, IMAX version! |
no killing no porn
disgusted i am that is was posted on a forum I have been on for 6 years.
discussion is good but the TOS rules still apply . dont even know how to ened this post mb another tea :hflag: |
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omb, There are no openly graphic pictures uploaded on our server that you are confronted with when you open this thread. The links provided do not go to pages containing porn or advertised porn. The video is topical and can now be found on news channels and all over the internet, it's no secret to most of us. -gaz |
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No worse than Nick Berg being posted some 2 years ago... I hear that most muslims take it as an insult according to al Jazeera... Saddam was hagned on the same day that the christians consider the good friday. According to this muslim holiday, the march to mecca equals the march abraham undertook in order to kill his son as commended by god. In a lot of ppl eyes, Saddam is already considered a martyr. Some as much as some ppl do still believe that Elvis is still alive, same will go with saddam if it's not already the case. |
oh boy i dont remember posting last night.
New Years came a lil early . My eyes are swollen and my head hurts . :beer: Note to self ....no posts when hammered |
since the sole video (so far) shows sadaam only dropping out of camera frame, it isn't going to do much to assuage conspiracy speculation. as the execution video of record it's anything but.
had the iraqis wanted they could have avoided adding to a lot of future speculation by simply recording and releasing the full event. for whatever strange reason known only to them they haven't. perhaps they will and they may have to because as it stands now, no one looking at that video alone can say for certain what really happened. when even the burial site is suspect (the nyt calls it the "reported" grave of sadaam) the air surrounding this critical moment in middle eastern history is thick with fakery. perhaps that was intentional, to dampen violence from loyalists with hope their ultimate leader still lives. otherwise it's sheer stupidity. - js. |
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In Western Christianity Good Friday occurs between March 20 and April 23. It is the Friday that preceeds Easter Sunday. Good Friday commemorates the crucifixion of Jesus, God's son sacrificed so that the sins of mortals be absolved. The exact date of the crucifixion of Jesus is not known and can not be accurately calculated from information in the Scriptures. In 2006, Good Friday occurred on April 14. In 2007 it will be on April 6. There is no Western religious significance to the day of Saddam's execution. There is religious significance to the day for Muslims. It involves the test of Abraham by God. Added in Edit: I'll have to agree that the video is far less than expected. One would think that if they wanted to video an execution of that magnitude, they had better means available than they used. You do see the rope go taught when Saddam drops. We do see in news photos what certainly appears to be a dead Saddam. They probably are being vague about his grave site in order to prevent it from being disturbed. As we know, lots of Iraqis hated Saddam. I would not describe it as "thick with fakery" unless fakery is shown or proven. It may have just been haste. They were obviously anxious to carry out the execution, and had faced a number of delays. They may have feared additional delays and/or disruption of the execution by sectarian violence. They also wanted the execution to coincide with a religious holiday. When the opportunity arose, they hastily carried out the execution. At least the length of fall was apparently calculated properly, according to the witness accounts Saddam was instantly killed. |
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:drinkers: nappy yoo hear! :drinkers: - js. |
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U would enjoy that? |
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Saddam's execution continues to disintigrate into the latest in a seemingly endless series of political and tactical blunders by the US occupation. From Pat Lang:
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So it has come to this. People are defending and even applauding Saddam's crimes against humanity, against millions of his own countrymen, because of our own president's poor popularity. People don't get much more petty than this.
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From the Pat Lang link you posted:
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i'm not sure where you get the tie-in to Bush's popularity, but at any rate...
Saddam's methods worked in Iraq - our methods do not. both methods get a lot of people killed. in the aggregate, weighing all quality-of-life metrics, Saddam would appear to have been the more successful leader. |
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