Place your bets for an 'emotional damage' lawsuit...

I wonder whether if she hadn't mentioned Moore, merely sticking to the shitfest that was (and still is) Enron, Timmins would have still berated her for expressing political views on stage?

soon enough people will be jailed for expressing their political views, as its un patriotic

if it means expressing it by beating each other to a bloody pulp i think they always have been..:D

it seems weird and hard to understand what a patriot is..defending your side of politics isnt patriotisim..but i am pretty sure some people think it is..

You and I, travel to the beat of a different drum
Oh can't you tell by the way I run
Evertime you make eyes at me
You cry and moan and say it will work out
But honey child I've got my doubts
You can't see the forest for the trees

Oh don't get me wrong
It's not that I knock it
It's just that I'm not in the market
For a boy who wants to love only me
Yes and I ain't saying you ain't pretty
All I'm sayin's that I'm not ready
For any person, place or thing
To try and pull the reins in on me

So goodbye, I'll be leavin' I see no sense
In this crying and grieving
We'll both live a lot longer, if you live without me

:D

That's my que...
 

It's pretty hard not to react defensively against people who want to ram their worldview down our throats against vast public outcry and science and common human decency. These neo-Dark Ageists want to install Fundamentalist Christianity as the state government, make women and minorities chattel, and wage total war against the whole world if they don't hand over the loot and bow down before the supposed Lost 10 Tribes of Israel. It is utterly outrageous and unacceptable and yet they are as vehement and maniacal as any Talibaner about it.

Look at what one historian says:

'Whatever its motivation, the Republicans' partisan assault on democracy displays a will to power unlike any seen in our country since the fire-eater secessionist movement of the 1850s that led to the creation of the southern Confederacy... The current Republican Party has no need for secessionism (although its pandering to racist Confederate sensibilities in the South has long been one of its key political weapons). What it shares with the fire-eaters is an implacable will to dominate and a combination of cynicism and contempt for our democratic constitutional procedures. This is not hard-knuckled politics as usual. It is radical and abnormal. It has already degraded American democracy. And it portends a crisis in our politics as great as any since the era of Reconstruction."
Sean Wilentz, the Dayton-Stockton Professor of History at Princeton

If this Heathcliff winds up in one of their gulags it won't be for lacking trying to do something about it ahead of time. :MAD:

This is a funny coincidence, I've felt the same way about Democrats for many years. I guess this makes it my word against his then, and whose to judge which of us is right?

Listen, as long as we keep throwing these kinds of attacks at one another we're not going to get anywhere. I'm perfectly willing to conceed that Republicans are every bit as dumb as Democrats, and perfectly willing to believe that Democrats are as high minded and patriotic as Republicans. But when I read the rediculous accusation that any American wants to "install Fundamentalist Christianity as the state government, make women and minorities chattel, and wage total war against the whole world" I begin to wonder if you really want things to work out for everybody. No American wants those things to happen, period, and your continued railing against a significant number of people (as many as half of all Americans and possibly more) is not only tiresome and tactless, it's getting to be quite offensive. I mean, what are you going to accomplish by making everybody feel stupid?

He's a troll dumbass. You already pointed it out yourself. Why are you still entertaining him? Are you that desperate for someone to talk to?

only troll like behavior i can see is your pathetic one line attempt of to kill the conversation...

heathcliff is entertaing us as far as i can see

its easy to see the current US administration has helped ruin what was once considered one of the best political systems in the world..
the idea that a civil war could go down in the US in this century is pretty frightning
(anyone remember that guy from who was ment to be from the future?)

"its easy to see the current US administration has helped ruin what was once considered one of the best political systems in the world.."

Must be easy for you because you want to, the people living here and not doing drugs haven't seen anything change: same two major parties standing on the same platforms pushing the same agendas.


But I'm sure from 5,000 miles away in a mentally disoriented state you can see a lot better than me.

do tell..
you know nothing of my mental state..

from what i can tell it appears a lot more balanced than your pathetic attempts at being ASSertive
keep your fucking comments to topic and off the individual..
this place is way past this..
just fits you out as a moron dude,get over people and get to the subject..

I already posted the subject, did you forget already?

"its easy to see the current US administration has helped ruin what was once considered one of the best political systems in the world.."

Do you think just because you say it's so it really is? You're a little too full of yourself. The political system under this administration is the same as under the last one, no matter what the great all knowing multi says.





from 5,000 miles away in a mentally disoriented state.

i said helped..meaning I am under the impression they are not totaly at blame.... and i do think the US is not regarded as the stable system it was 25 years ago..in eyes of the rest of the world..

Ahhh...morphing from "best" to "stable" and from "the current admin" to "25 years ago". No pinning you down on an issue eh?

nothing all that disoriented about what i am saying..its quite simple ..but twist it how you will..
"25 years ago" i was refering to-> what was once considered one of the best political systems

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orignally posted by that multi dude.

"it seems weird and hard to understand what a patriot is..defending your side of politics isnt patriotisim..but i am pretty sure some people think it is.."

...cool!

It's still an experement, Multi. Two and a quarter centuries may seem like a long time in human terms but it's a short sprint for a world that has seen thousands of years of political systems come and go. The curent political situation is just a hiccup. I seriously doubt a civil war is possible now, considering how bloody the last one was. And if it did happen, or if some other disaster occured that caused the collapse of this nation, the system itself would not be forgotten. Democrady, self government, and the original open document we call the Consititution are immortal by now; we're just the present torch bearers, and one day the torch will be passed to someone else but it will not be extinguished.

For the life of me, I can't understand why anybody would get excited about anything a "singer" would say.

Does she have a nice voice or a good brain? Maybe both? (heshe & snicker x 2).

Why anybody would get their opinions from empty-headed entertainers is totally beyond me.

Maybe we should just vote for the perp with the biggest breasts or biggest penis. Some monkeys elect the one with the pinkest asshole as their leader.


Works for me................ seems to work for u too.



Show me the pink

You should study world history a little more closely nicobe. Artists and poets of all kinds have always (rightly or wrongly) been in the vanguard of human motivation.

The thread posted by tank girl about the cave carvings hints at this profound truth.

More damage control.
 

Do you have any scholars to back up your feelings?


It's very telling you took that personally, you were a million miles away in my mind when I wrote it. In fact I was just enjoying your "Geometry" thinking what a cool and talented guy you are. You right-wing tirade shocks and disappoints me. You make a liar out of me to nicobe.

And no, I will not concede the point that Dems are just as dumb as Repubs. The Dems are always painted as the quintessential intellectual elitists and the Repubs. as backward, ignorant hillbillies hellbent for the bad old days. What? You think there isn't any hint of truth in those stereotypes? Get real. Just look at what you are attempting to do to me: stiffening my 1st amendment rights. Who the hell made you a mod around here? Put me on ignore if I offend you so much. I don't see anyone clamoring for you to come to the rescue of the board. Man....

Also, apparently you've never heard of the Identity Movement or British and American Israelism. Look them up and prove it to yourself. While your at it check out what the militia people are saying. Huge resources of the FBI and CIA were devoted to thwarting an impending race war in the late '60's. What do you think Louis Farakan means when he talks about the mothership landing? Hell even the Mormon Church is all stocked up just waiting for the end of the world so they can repopulate the earth. You accuse me of "wish fulfillment" and yet you willfully overlook all these historical facts. You're living in your own private Idaho if you sincerely believe "No American wants those things to happen, period".

He lacks what you have in spades Oh Great Troll Detector: Moral and intellectual certitude.

multi is an exceptionally bright and insightful guy IMHO.